Andrew Nicol (born about 1790)

[houseofbrown]

I have been able to confirm, by Scotlands People, IGI etc, the following:
- Janet Bunyan Nicol was born Carnwath, Lanarkshire 20/2/1822 to parents Andrew Nicol and Janet Bunyan
- Janet Bunyan Nicol married Alexander Laurie at Pettinain, Lanarkshire 1/6/1841
What I have been unable to verify is:
- when/where Nicol and Bunyan were married
- who are the parents of Andrew Nicol.  Some 'trees' suggest that it may be Walter Nicol (1747-1846) and Isobel Reid (1751-1828), both of Langholm.
Would appreciate any assistance to determine one way or the other.
Thanks,   Bill.

[anne_p]

Andrew Nicol: Schoolmaster in Carnwath 1841:   
Name   Age
Andw Nicol   45
Janet Bunyan   45
Isabella Nicol   20
Janet Nicol   15
Mary Nicol   15
Margt W Nicol   14
Elisabeth Nicol   9
Jane Nicol   6
Alexr Laurie   25
Catharine Wood   30
Robert Mine   12
Catharina Mine   3
William Mine   9 Mo
Agnes Ramsay   65


Andrew Nicol :Schoolmaster, Carnwath 1851
No wife on census   
Name   Age
Andrew Nicol   55 b Meline (  it this Melrose?) Roxburgh
Isabella Nicol   30 dau
Eliza Nicol   19 dau
Jane Nicol   16 dau

EDIT:
He fits the profile of Andrew Nicol b 28 Dec 1795 Melrose
Parents:  John Nicol and Isabella Murray

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aandrew~%20%2Bsurname%3Anicol~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aroxburgh~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1790-1798~&collection_id=1771030

[houseofbrown]

Thank you annep5892.  That took you 14 minutes; wonder what I was doing all day!
Bill.
(Does it look like Andrew & Janet may not have been married?)

[anne_p]

Bill,
Did you notice Janet's  last name  as it was entered on Family Search as per the births of her children?
They all say Bunyie rather than Bunyan.
However, I also noted that the 1st recorded child was baptised in CARSTAIRS in 1818.
The child was called Margaret but most probably died in infancy as this couple had a child called Margaret Williamson Nicol at a later date in Carnwath.

Link to all Nicol/Bunyie baptisms
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Anicol~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Aandrew~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Abunyie~&collection_id=1771030

Based on this 1st birth, I looked for a marrige prior to 1818.....
Andrew Nicol and Janet BUNGIE married in Edinburgh 1817.
I am certain that this is them and Bungie is a mis-trasctiption of Bunyie

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aandrew~%20%2Bsurname%3Anicol~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1817-1818~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Ajanet~&collection_id=1771074


EDIT:
Again looking at Family Search, it would appear that daughter Isabella Nicol married Adam Gray in 1853.
Adam was also from Melrose.
 On the marriage info, I spotted that Isabella has acquired the middle intitial of "M".
If she was the 2nd daughter, she would be named for her father's mother....... perhaps :
Isabella Murray Nicol?

Household Members:   
Name   Age
Adam Gray   39 b Melrose
Isabella Gray   40 b Carstairs
Janet Gray   6 b Melrose
Robert Dodds   24 boarder
John Renville   22 boarder
Mary Ballantine   20 servant

[Annette7]

Well done, annep5892!

Looking at original on SP states:

Andrew Nicoll, Teacher of Tolbooth Parish, married Janet Bungie, of same parish, dau. of Andrew Bungie, Manufacturer of Melrose.   Married 7/4/1817 Edinburgh City

Looks like her family had moved to Melrose and presumably where she and Andrew met.

Annette

[anne_p]

Hi Annette,
My understanding is that both Andrew Nicol and Janet Bunyie were from Melrose, Roxburghshire
 Born Melrose : (Educated in Edinburgh?) Married in Edinburgh  moved to Carstairs soon after, and then onto Carnwath
If we could prove that Andrew was the son of John Nicol and Isabella Murray, it is quite easy lo locate other children born to them.

John and Isabella  had a son called Walter Murray Nicol who married and lived in Edinburgh.
He too was a teacher, and church minister, but will keep that on the back burner until there is some proof!

[houseofbrown]

Ladies, what can I say?   The speed with which you have cleared up this issue for me is quite impressive.  Thank you so much for the trouble that you have gone to.
What it means is that this family connection does not relate to me but I know who it does relate to and I am sure that he will be very pleased to get this information. (He is actually visiting Scotland from Australia  shortly, with the aim of doing some family research whilst he is there; thanks to you he can now research the correct family!)
Regards,   Bill

[Annette7]

Andrew Nichol buried 28/10/1854 at Carnwath, aged 58, of 'Congestion on the brain' so unfortunately died pre civil registration.

However, knowing he was born Melrose the only one born there relevant time was the one whose parents were John Nichol and Isabella Murray so think this has to be him i.e. born 28/12/1795, bp.26/6/1796 Melrose.

Annette   

[Annette7]

Can we help with who you are actually looking for (if not the Andrew born at Melrose)?   Is it an Andrew Nichol bc.1790 as in the title of this post?

Annette