Harris Family

[xrstokes]

Hi, I'm looking for any info on a Thomas Harris b. 1833 or 1835. Married Mary b. 1837. Their children were: Mary 1863, Amy 1864, Alice 1866, Thomas 1869, William 1871, David 1873, Isaac 1875, John 1878, Edith 1881.

David Harris married Phoebe Jane Roberts b. 1876 and had 6 sons. Norman Harris (the eldest) b. 1903 sailed to Australia on 10/10/1927 on the ship 'Baradine'.

Thanks 

[AMBLY]

Hi xrstokes

Welcome to Rootschat 

I've found a possible family on the census - however, the father Thomas is born around 1833 not 1850.  What is the source for your birth-year for him?

Cheers
AMBLY

[xrstokes]

Hi Ambly,

Thanks for your reply. The date came from a relative who had done some research, so not sure where he got it from??? So could be wrong??? What census information do you have?

Thanks 

[AMBLY]

Hi

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
David & Phoebe Jane married Sep Q 1901 Newport

Then:
Phoebe J HARRIS age 36, b Shifnal Shropshire
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7PD-KJ2
David HARRIS,  age 38 b Hennllys, Monmouthshire, abt
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7PD-KJK
Norman HARRIS age 7, b Rogerstone, Monmouthshire
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7PD-KJG

And: possible matches in earlier Census - the good only fit I can find (and that's if David's father is a Thomas, as hopefully named on David & Phoebe's marriage cert):

1901: Crosslanfro Road, Rogerstone, Monmouthshire
RG13 /  Piece 4963 /  Folio: 152 /  Pg2
Head: Thomas HARRIS 68, widower, Ag Lab, b Rogerstone
Son: Thomas HARRIS 32, single, Accountant, b Rogerstone
Son: David HARRIS 27, single, General labourer, b Rogerstone
Son: John HARRIS 22, single, Ag Lab, b Henllys, Mon,.
Dau: Edith Sarah HARRIS 19, single, Dressmaker, b Rogerstone

1891: Groes Road, Rogerstone, Monmouthshire
RG12 / Piece: 4379 / Folio: 67 / Pg7
Head: Thomas HARRIS 58, Ag Lab, b Bassalleg, Monmouthshire
Wife: Mary HARRIS 54, b Llanwyns, Glamorganshire
Son: William HARRIS 19, Ag Lab, b Henllys, Monmouthshire
Son: David HARRIS 17, Ag Lab,b Henllys, Monmouthshire
Son: John HARRIS 12, Scholar, b Henllys, Monmouthshire
Dau: Edith S HARRIS 9, Scholar, b Bassalleg, Monmouthshire
Son-in-Law: John T JONES 37, Fitter, b Llanelly, Breconshire
Dau: Mary A JONES 27, b Llantsinam, Monmouthshire
Gr-Dau: Alice JONES 2,  b Newport, Monmouthshire

1881: Keepers Cottages, Rogerstone, Monmouthshire
RG11 / Piece: 5269 / Folio: 74 / Pg10
Head: Thomas HARRIES 50, Farm Labourer, b  U.K. (unknown)
Wife: Mary HARRIES 44,  b U.K.
Son: William HARRIES 10, Scholar, b Monmouthshire
Son: David HARRIES 7,  Scholar,  b Henllys Court
Son: Isaac HARRIES 5, Scholar,  b Henllys Court
Son: John HARRIES 3, Scholar,  b Henllys Court

Cheers
AMBLY

[xrstokes]

Thankyou so much for this information!

Cheers

[teeharr900]

Hi xrstokes and Ambly,

i am currently looking into my ancestry and saw your post.  David Harris who married Phoebe Jane Roberts is my great-grandfather.  Their 2nd youngest child came out to Australia on 8 July 1924 on the ship "Largs Bay" bound for Sydney, Australia.  This man was my grandfather.

I was wondering if you had any information on what happened to Phoebe.  I have got her listed on the 1911 Wales Census but can't find any trace of her death or anything later on.  I am also trying to confirm who her parents were and date of birth.

David's father was in fact Thomas Harris who was born about 1833 - he was 58yrs old on the 1891 Wales Census.  At the time his wife Mary was 54yrs old.  I am also at a loss about what happened to her.  When I look at the 1901 Wales Census - it shows Thomas who is 68yrs old but as a widower.  Not sure what happened during this 10year period.  I don't even have Mary's maiden name to go on.

do either of you have any ideas?  Would be great to get a bit more information.

Hope to hear from you soon.  FINGERS CROSSED

[xrstokes]

Hi Teeharr900,

thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't have any of the info you're after.

So Bert was your grandfather? Norman Harris was my grandfather. 

Cheers