Rolfe Marriage

[poohatbarton]

Can anyone please assist, I have the marriage of Mary Hart to John Rolfe at All Saints Fulbourn on 10 Nov 1799 with witness' Chas Dawson and Francis Waters my problem is:- who is John Rolfe?  is he the son of Ann Ranner and William Rolfe (sen) or the son of Richard Rolfe/Roffe and Ellen Battel?

I keep going over my research and must be missing something as I do not seem to be able to solve this one.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance

P@B

[CaroleW]

Is he on any census showing his birthplace or birthyear?

Does the 1799 marriage entry show him as a bachelor or widower

Do you know when and where he died

[CaroleW]

There is a burial for a John Rolfe at All Saints Fulbourn on 14.9.1843 - aged 67 so birthyear approx 1776

[bedfordshire boy]

What happened to the other John Rolfe? Did he die as an infant; is there another marriage; is there another death/burial; is there a marriage/remarriage after 1837 when a father would be named? You need to try to eliminate one or the other.

[berkeley]

Hi. Freereg has John Rolf , Fulbourn bapt 04/12/1775, ma Ann, pa William

[berkeley]

Hi again there is a John Rolf born to Richard & ellen bapt 21/06/ 1767 Fulbourn- freereg

[Westmoreland]

Greetings
Becareful working on Bapt years these can be a lot later in date than the birth
Have looked at the census 1841 and nothing that I can marry to your info, is Fulbourn in Cambridgeshire?
regards
Westmorland

[poohatbarton]

I seem to have lost a message in the system somewhere so I will post it again,

Thanks everyone, but it would seem that I didn't make myself clear, no doubt family history brain addle has taken over. What I am actually trying to ascertain is which John Rolfe married Mary Hart, was it the son of William and Ann or was it the son of Richard and Ellen. I have the details of these two, I also have the marriage of John and Mary at All Saints Fulbourn Cambridgeshire in 1799 where both parties are described as single, but no parents listed. In 1820 there is a wedding at Fulbourn between Mary Rolfe (widow) and John Littlechild (widower) which might suggest that John died but in the 1951 Census mary is listed as Mary Rolfe widow and shown living with her son Henry, in Poor Well. If anyone has access to the Fulbourn 1841 census could they please try looking for Mary as both Rolfe and Littlechild, this may help to see if John did die and that the Littlechild Mary is another Mary Rolfe,  there seems to be lots of Rolfes in Fulbourn.

Thanks again
P@B

[CaroleW]

Hi

Don't worry - you did make it clear that you were trying to find which John Rolfe was which. 

However - to do that - birthyears and birthplaces are the usual decider.  Marriages pre-1837 give no useful info re: age or fathers name hence the question re: census entry/death date.

If he was a bachelor in 1799, a rough guide to his age would be the late 1760's or early 1780's.  However, if he was a widower, he could have been much older in 1799.

The 1851 entry you mention shows Mary as 73 (1778)  b Fulbourn and Henry 34 (1817) also Fulbourn

Living next door is William Rolfe aged 47 (1804) and his family