Sophy Joly & John William Reading

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Last census available Sophia Jolley 34 year old single barmaid.44 Glasshouse St Westminster.
Ciderdrinker

[jim1]

The Sophia Jolly b.1877 appears to be daughter of William & Temperance Grace Jolly bookbinder of Dean St. London & one of twins,the other is Annie both born 2nd. Feb. 1877.

[markoid1]

Thanks Ciderdrinker.

This is useful.

In terms of their marriage, I have checked every single Reading marriage on FreeBMD and nothing in terms of a Sophie or Jeannie that then links to the name Joly/Jolley/Jolly/Joley from a prior marriage.

I do believe he may have have married abroad, but nothing coming up on the RG34 index, but he may have been a civilian rather than a soldier, so it may only be recorded in a French/Belgian town...

[avm228]

Hi Mark

A possible lead on John?

Findmypast has (brief) military records for a John Reading born in Foleshill.

He enlisted in the 3rd Battalion, Royal Warwickshire Regiment on 21 August 1895.

Age: 18 years 8 months
Birthplace: Foleshill
Current address: 24 Victoria Street*, parish of St Peter's, Coventry
Occupation: machinist (master is Mr Lean)

Unmarried, just under 5ft 6in, sallow complexion, grey eyes, brown hair, C of E.

His record covers only his attestation (and his first 6 days as a private before the file was apparently transferred) - no subsequent service shown.

*N.B. 24 Victoria St was the address of the John W. Reading found in the 1891 census with his family by ciderdrinker earlier in the thread at reply #8: RG12 piece 2454 folio 77 page 7.

[markoid1]

Thank you so much avm228.

That definitely opens up a new line of inquiry. However, I have read it is rare for the WO96 records not to list any further service - so it seems as though his military life was a short one. Do the find my past records list a regimental number at all?

My first look into the Warwickshire Regiments post 1895, shows a John Reading serving in Sudan and then onto South Africa - wishful thinking on my part! Regimental number listed as 4582.

[avm228]

The number ascribed to John on the record is D/5441.

The puzzling thing about it is that after recording "Attestation; [Corps] RWR;  [Battalion] 3; [Rank] Private; service 6 days 21.8.95-26.8.95 it goes on to say "To R. Warwick Regt 27 Aug 1895" - and that is the end of the record. I say puzzling because of course he was already in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment.

Anyway, there's no indication he was discharged, so I don't think it's safe to conclude his service was short. The attestation term was 6 years.

[markoid1]

Ahhh...I see. So it looks like he may of transferred from the militia into the regulars...

[ciderdrinker]

Good morning
Just to follow up on earlier reply.
Temperance Grace Buzzacott married June 1869 Exeter 5b 186 James Webb
She then married Shoreditch June 1874 1c 207 William Tolley
And finally Sep 1879 Lambeth 1d 573 William Simms
Ciderdrinker

[markoid1]

I got the death certificate today for Sophy Reading and can confirm she was born 1877 died 1926 aged 49. Her husband is cited: John William Reading, brick layers labourer. So it's her. Address: 41 Meadway, Stoke Heath, Coventry.

I have found a William Reading, who was a POW in World War 1. Occupation listed as bricklayers labourer. Just checking him out now. So far, I know he was discharged in 1919, in Coventry.