Missing Hern Family & Marriage

[aidansrest]

Hi,

Can anybody help in tracing this family in 1861 and in 1881.

1871
Margaret Hern born c1837 in Shetland (Widow)
Children:
Mary Elizabeth Hern born c1859 Sunderland
Isabella Hern born c 1862 Sunderland
Stephen Hern born c 1867 Sunderland
John Hern born c 1870 Sunderland

They were living in East Street, Sunderland in 1871, but disappear by 1881, also no trace of Margaret or Mary Elizabeth in 1861.

Can't find a marriage between a Hern and a 'Margaret' prior to 1859, nor a death or remarriage for her after 1871!

Can anybody help?

Sue

[Kay99]

Could this be the family in 1861?  Living at  71, Hendon Street, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland. 
Edit - The wife is Mary Ann - not Margaret so may not be the one

HERN, James Married   30    Seaman M S  b Teinmouth, Devonshire    
HERN, Mary Ann 23    b St Peter Quay, Northumberland       
HERN, James 8 b Sunderland, Durham       
HERN, Mary Elizabeth    2  b Sunderland, Durham
RG09 piece 3773 folio 46 page 23

Kay

[Kay99]

James Hern born 1832 Teignmouth, Devonshire was issued his Mates Certificate on 8 Oct 1861 at Sunderland

If the 1861 is incorrect then so is this

[Kay99]

On this FreeBMD index here is a marriage of a James Horn to a Mary Wade in Sunderland Sept qtr 1856 10 462

Maybe wrongly transcribed and as above not Margaret!!!  I should delete it, but there is always the possibility she was actually Mary

[ChrissieL]

You may have to send for the birth certificate of one of the children to get the parents names.
Chris

[ChrissieL]

Stephen Hern married Ellen Nixon in Mar Qtr 1888 Sunderland 10a745
The family appear under various names in the census
1891 Howe
1901 Kenn
1911 Hern
But I can't find Stephen or the rest of the family in1881

[aidansrest]

Hi All,

Thanks for your help and suggestions. It could be the right family that Kay has found, but I may have to buy son, Stephen's, birth certificate to confirm (he is the direct line).

Once again, your help is appreciated

Sue

[ChrissieL]

Just as an afterthought, I did notice on the 1871 census, just above the entry for Margaret Hern there is also another Margaret from Shetland, Lerwick.  I wonder did the enumerator make a mistake and wrongly enter the same details for both women?

[JenB]

Just following up another member of the family:

Isabella's birth is registered as Isabella Henderson Hern in 3q 1861, Sunderland 10a, 436

Isabella Henderson Hern married Robert Dixon in 3q 1877, Sunderland 10a, 580.

They are in Bishopwearmouth in 1881,  RG 11/ 4994 / 82 / 77

In 1891 she is a widow living in South Shields, RG 12/ 4158 / 38 / 14

In 1891 she marries Thomas Thomas (marriage cross-referenced as Isabella Dixon/Heron on the South Tyneside Registrar's site)

In 1901 they are living in South Shields RG 13 / 4734 / 140 / 3