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Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« on: Saturday 28 December 13 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Looking for any information on the Greer Family from Newmains Wishaw my father's name is John Buchanan Greer , his father was Abraham and his mother was Mae can you help.

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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 December 13 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

What was Mae's maiden name and her birthyear/birthplace?

Here is Abraham on the 1901 census - all surname Greer

27 Wemys Row Cambusnethan

Thomas Greer 41 Iron Work Puddler
Mary  38 b Glasgow
James  19  ditto
Mary    12 b Craigneck
John    10 b Overtown
Humphrey 9  ditto
William 6      ditto
Abraham 3   ditto
Flora  1       ditto
Robert  22 visitor b Glasgow
Cambusnethan ED 8 Page 11 Line 18
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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 December 13 23:30 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 they are transcribed as Green and at Wemyss Hill  Row.  All born Glasgow except Mary & John

Thomas Greer 30 puddler
Mary  28
Thomas 11
James 9
Mary  2 b Craigneuk
John 6months b Overtown
Cambusnethan ED 8 Page 52 Line 3

You would need to download a copy of Abraham's birth cert from Scotlands People to get Mary's maiden name so you can trace his parents marriage. 

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There is the following baptism on SP but I can't be sure it's the right James although the birthyear fits and it has Buchanan as a middle name like your father

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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 December 13 00:22 GMT (UK) »
There was a marriage of Abraham Greer & May Trueman, 1920, Cambusnethan.
You can view it on Scotlandspeople. This should show age, parents names & mothers maiden name.

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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 December 13 01:30 GMT (UK) »
From the burial records of Cambusnethan cemetery. (I only have then up to 1917).

THOMAS GREER, iron puddler, Wishaw, aged 48 years, married.
Parents - Humphrey Greer & Mary Leslie.
Interred in public ground on 4th December 1907.

MARY GREER, Wishaw, aged 50 years, widow.
Parents - John Docherty & Flora Buchanan.
Interred in plot E2093 on 8th February 1915.
Plot owned by James Greer, coalminer, 6 Castlehill Feus, Wishaw.

ROBERT H.G. SPROTT, Castlehill Feus, aged 24 days.
Parents - Andrew Sprott & Margaret Greer.
Interred in common ground on 17th October 1908.

MARGARET SPROTT, housewife, Wishaw, aged 39 years, married.
Parents - Humphrey Greer & Mary Leslie.
Interred in plot E1753 on 26th November 1908.
Plot owned by Andrew Sprott, steel worker, 14 Castlehill Feus, Wishaw.

WILLIAM BLACKLEY, Wishaw, aged 2 weeks.
Parents - William Blackley & Mary Greer.
Interred in public ground on 26th July 1910.

MARION FINLAY BLACKLEY, Wishaw, aged 9 months.
Parents - William Blackley & Mary Greer.
Interred in plot E2093 on 19th May 1915.

THOMAS GREER, Wishaw, aged 7 months.
Parents - John Greer & Mary L. Smith.
Interred in public ground on 27th March 1915.

JOSEPH S. GREER, 52 Castlehill Feus, Wishaw. Aged 6 months.
Parents - John Greer & Mary Smith.
Interred in public ground on 23rd August 1916.

Wemysshill Rows and Castlehill Feus were in the Gowkthrapple - Overtown area of Wishaw.

The 1861 census for 8 Drygate Lane, Glasgow has Humphrey Greer aged 25 years, a general labourer, born Ireland. His wife is Mary Greer, aged 21 years, born Ireland. Their only child is Thomas aged 1 year born Glasgow. There is also a visitor by the name of Anthony McCrann (but this may well be McCann), he is aged 45 years, a weaver, born Ireland.

Drygate Lane would have been around Duke Street prison somewhere, in the area of High Street, Duke Street and The Drygate. Very "inner-city".

Luck is on your side Sandra, there is an entry for the same family in the 1851 census for Glasgow and, it takes you back another generation.

The address is 74 Drygate Street. (I think this is now known as The Drygate).
Thomas Greer, head of house, aged 40, (occupation doesn't make sense to me) born Ireland.
Mary Greer, wife, aged 45, born Ireland.
Sarah Greer, daughter, aged 20 born Ireland.
Jean Greer, daughter, aged 18, born Ireland.
Humphrey Greer, son, aged 18, retails sticks (he sells firewood) born Ireland.
Richard Greer, son, aged 14, pottery labourer, born Ireland.
Charles Greer, son, aged 10, scholar, born Ireland.
Thomas Docherty, lodger, aged 22, masons labourer, born Ireland.
Bryan Docherty, lodger, aged 21, masons labourer, born Ireland.
Cath(erine?) Docherty, visitor, aged 50, dealer in frint? (print or flint?) born Ireland.
Helen Docherty, visitor, aged 13, born Ireland.
Neil Docherty, visitor, aged 11, scholar, born Ireland.
Thomas Docherty, lodger, aged 30, masons labourer, born Ireland.

Quite a housefull, probably no more than a room & kitchen! The Dochertys must be in-laws.



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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 December 13 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you that has been great can you find out more about Thomas Greer was interred on the 4th December 1907 I think that was mu great grandfather

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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 December 13 21:15 GMT (UK) »
is there anyway you could find out more about my grandmother May Trueman wife of Abraham Greer

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 January 14 15:20 GMT (UK) »
looking for information on Alexander Barr Telfer husband to Elizabeth McCutcheon I know he died on the 12.03.1947 and his father's name was Charles Telfer and mother Jane McDonald Barr thank any information would be great. Also looking for information on Andew Gardiner died 16.12.1966 I know the plot number he is buried in it's 369G

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Re: Greer family, Newmains Wishaw
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 January 14 00:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

All I can tell you is that there is a W. Trueman, 26 Stenton Cottages, in the 1922 Wishaw Directory.

Are you sure that Alexander Telfer's father's name was Charles? There is a burial entry in Cambusnethan cemetery records for a Richard Telfer aged 6 weeks, lived in Chapel (that's Morningside) and was buried 16th May 1914 in common ground. Parents listed as JOHN TELFER & Jane Barr.

Lots of Telfers in the Shotts & Stane area. Charles Telfer & Mary Shaw had a baby died 1892.
A Charles Telfer died 1892 aged 27 years.
So plenty of Telfers!
No Truemans in the burial records.
If you want to know about plot G369 you will have to contact North Lanarkshire Council cemeteries office in Bellshill. Or, go to Cambusnethan cemetery during working hours.
To know more about May Trueman you will have to check for her birth/marriage/death certificate and find her parents names. We can't do that for you I'm afraid.
Motherwell Heritage Centre has plenty of census records, try there if you live locally.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.