Jefferson Family.

[corinthian]

Hi,

I am trying to track down some members of my Jefferson family & wondered if anyone can help.

Hannah L Evans was born in Wales on 16/08/1850 & married Thomas Jefferson in 1872. Hannah & Thomas are my 2 x grt grandparents.

The couple moved from Northumberland to Islington,London between 1878-1881. Their last five children were all born in Islington. Their names are Martha Jefferson (b1881),Margaret (b1883),Ethel (b1886),David William (b1888) & Edward Hemmings (b1891). Thomas died in Wandsworth,London Q1 1902 & I have traced Hannah in the 1911 census,living in Chelsea.

I then spent many years trying to trace the date of Hannah's death without success & then,almost by chance,came across her in the Canadian 1921 census. Hannah is recorded as the mother-in-law of John Frederick Hurley,living in Winnipeg City. John's wife is recorded as Josephine Hurley,aged 30 & there is a son Harry Jefferson Hurley,aged 3,born in England. There is also a sister-in-law;Ethel Jefferson,aged 28.  All emigrated to Canada in 1919 (other than John Hurley=1902). Here I get a little confused because,as far as I am aware,Hannah & Thomas had no daughter named Josephine. I have traced the marriage of Josephine & John to Q4 1917 in Camberwell,London & have ordered the M/C.

Did one of Hannah's daughters change her name to Josephine??. If so which daughter or is she a previously unrecorded daughter?

I have been unable to track down daughter Margaret (Josephine?) in 1901 (possibly traced in 1911 but uncertain),Martha from 1911 onwards & son,David William from 1911 onwards. I have also been unable to trace son Edward Hemmings Jefferson in 1911,although I have traced him after this date. Did they all emigrate to Canada? Hannah & daughter,Ethel,both died in Vancouver,Canada,Hannah in 1937 & Ethel in 1935 but I have been unable to trace any of the others.

Any help/advice gratefully received. 

Regards

Coreen           

[Jacquie in Canada]

Here is a link to the passenger list for the Metagama which arrived in St. John, New Brunswick on 17 Feb 1919 with Hannah (68), Ethel (28) and Margaret (30) Jefferson listed. It says they are destined for Toronto to join John Hurley, son-in-law (starting line 4): http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl0/

Josephine Hurley and an infant are listed on a different page on the same voyage. She is listed in the section for soldiers' dependants. Here's a link (line 19): http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl1/

There is a Margaret Jefferson who was born in England 6 Apr 1883 who died in Vancouver in 1955. Her parents are listed as unknown. Here's a link to the registration if that birth date matches your Margaret: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl2/

Margaret is also buried at Mountain View Cemetery and from what I can see from checking Find A Grave it appears she, Hannah and Ethel are in the same plot.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

I've found some articles in the Winnipeg Free Press regarding the death of a John Hurley who appears to be the one married to Josephine. He was an editor with the Free Press so there is a lot of detail EXCEPT for the name of his wife and child. The information seems to match though as it says after demobilization from the army he came to Canada with his wife and baby in 1919. He died in 1932.

I've also found an obituary for a Josephine Jefferson Hurley who died 27 Feb 1964 in Toronto. It says she was the wife of the late John Hurley, mother of Jefferson Hurley of Toronto and sister of Edward Hurley of London. It says Josephine was 83 at the time of her death which would give her a birth year of about 1881 so Josephine may be your missing Martha.

There are entries in the Canada Voters Lists database at Ancestry for Jefferson Hurley in Toronto for 1940, 1953, 1957 and 1965. Jefferson's occupation is listed as advertising in 1940, newspaper in 1953, labour organizer in 1957 and writer in 1965. On the 1953, 1957 and 1965 lists, his wife Wilhelmine is with him. Josephine was with him in 1940, 1953 and 1957 and was listed as a teacher in 1940.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

Josephine and Jefferson went to England arriving in Liverpool on 12 Aug 1934 on the Ascania. They returned to Canada on the Alaunia arriving in Quebec on 18 Jun 1935. They listed their address as Winnipeg. Their proposed address listed on the incoming UK passenger list was 10 Marston Rd, Teddington, Middlesex.

I've found an obituary in the Toronto Star for Jefferson Hurley. He's listed as John Jefferson Hurley and went by Jeff. It says he was predeceased by his wife Billie. He died 28 Feb 1997. There is also an obituary for Wilhelmina "Billie" Hurley who died 11 Aug 1995.

If you PM me your email address I can send you copies of all the obituaries.

Jacquie

[*Sandra*]

Ethel Jefferson - died 28 May 1935 Vancouver. British Columbia

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLGR-WQ3

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl3/

FIND A GRAVE   http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl5/

Ethel crossed the border Canada to the USA May 1923 - Name of nearest relative in country from whence came was :- Hannah Jefferson - 39 Young street. Winnipeg.   

Hannah Evans/Jefferson - died 20 March 1937 Vancouver. British Columbia

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FL2V-Y95

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl4/

FIND A GRAVE - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl6/ 

Margaret Jefferson - died 2 Jan 1955 Vancouver. British Columbia. (Accident, struck by car. Inquest 5 th January 1955.)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FL5Y-K83

Death Cert :- http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xl2/ 

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Old message board post 2003/2004 - Josephine Jefferson married to John Hurley -

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.jefferson/490/mb.ashx

Sandra

[Jacquie in Canada]

Do have a birth date for David William Jefferson?

Jacquie

[corinthian]

Hi,

Thanks Jacquie & Sandra. The information that you posted has been really helpful. I've been looking for this family for years & hadn't realised they had emigrated to Canada.

I do now think that Martha & Josephine must be one & the same person as Martha's birth was registered Q1 1881. Perhaps the M/C will reveal something that will confirm this. 

David William Jefferson's birth was registered Q2 1888 in Islington,London. Unfortunately I do not have his exact DOB. I do know that he was known as Willie.   

Jaqcuie - I will send you a PM with my email address.

Regards

Coreen

[Chris Hampton]

Hello Coreen,

I'm new to Rootschat. Just wondering if a David William Jefferson, born 05/05/1885, an actor/manager who came to Australia at the end of 1910 is your David. First wed to Alma Frances Ashley in 1911, divorced, and then in 1918 wed Edna Marie Lascelles. I know of one son from the second marriage, Thomas Jefferson, born 17/01/1918, he served in the 2/16th Australian Infantry Battalion during WWII. My interest in David is with his theatre management role.

Cheers, Chris Hampton.