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WIFFEN/ALLEN
« on: Thursday 30 January 14 19:41 GMT (UK) »
I have been going round in circles with this and found nothing!! Where can I find Channel Island marriage/death info? Totally lost on Ancestry!! Looking for marriage between WILLIAM JOHN WIFFEN from Essex and CECILIA LOUISA ALLEN from the CI. They definitely had two sons....WILLIAM J born c1888 and ALBERT WIFFEN born c1889, both on the CI. It would then appear they had a daughter HELENA CECILIA in 1897. Cecilia died in 1899 and William and his sons were back in Essex for the 1901 census. On the 1901 CI census a Helena Wiffen aged 4 was with a Mary Ann Allen who I am guessing was the grandmother, although the place of birth for the young girl was England. Everything else fits. I can find no further record of young Helena? Hoping someone out there can help me please :)

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Re: WIFFEN/ALLEN
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 January 14 23:06 GMT (UK) »
 marriage 6 sept 1884 Guernsey  for William &cecilia

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Re: WIFFEN/ALLEN
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 January 14 23:35 GMT (UK) »
You won't find anything on Ancestry - because Jersey & Guernsey are two states independent of the UK, and have their own records!

Best place to look is Donkipedia and Jerripedia.
See: http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: WIFFEN/ALLEN
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 January 14 07:09 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for both replies and info  :)


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Re: WIFFEN/ALLEN
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 January 14 11:25 GMT (UK) »
1861 Census
St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands
RG9/4381/55/13
Thomas ALLEN, 29, Head, Mar, Labourer, born England
Mary Ann Allen, 29, Wife, Mar, born Guernsey
Mary Ann Allen, 5, Daug, born Guernsey
CECILIA L Allen, 2, Daug, born Alderney

1871 Census she is mistranscribed as EMILIA L Allen;
Thomas Allen, 39
Mary Ann Allen, 39
Emilia L Allen, 12***
Thomas W Allen, 8
Charles H Allen, 6
Helena I Allen, 4

1881 Cecilia L. Allen, born c 1860 Alderney is a Cook/Servant in the  De Saumerez  Household.

Now in 1871 Thomas/Mary Ann have a Son Charles H.

CHARLES HENRY Allen Christened 14 Feb 1866, St Pierre Port, Guernsey
Parents Thomas Allen and Mary Ann Caire

Trish :)

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Re: WIFFEN/ALLEN
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 January 14 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Alderney is part of the Bailiwick of Guernsey.

So Donkipedia is where you need to look?!
Or the Channel Islands Family History Society - http://www.jerseyfamilyhistory.org/.
They will do research - for a fee!

Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: WIFFEN/ALLEN
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 January 14 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Being REALLY stupid but HOW do I find info on Donkipedia/Theislandwiki? Where did you find the marriage date DORAN54? ???