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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 March 14 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Found him in the newspaper but I can't remember how to shrink the link!
On ancestry

New South Wales, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1854-1930
Name:    Robert Rider
Event Place:    Boyd Town, New South Wales, Australia
Event Type:    Missing Person
Publication Date:    19 May 1869
Page #:    154

...native of Barrow-upon-Soar...last heard of at Boyd Town, Twofold Bay, 13th November 1848. He may have gone to the Victorian Gold Fields. Information to the Inspector general of Police


Wonder what popped up 11yrs later for this in the paper
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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 March 14 23:26 GMT (UK) »
On his ticket of leave he is missing 1851, that would be why then, certainly got about a bit!
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 13:46 BST (UK) »
Robert ryder went to Australia there are police records of them looking for him

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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 December 16 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi JonJon, we are distant relatives, as is Andrea2009 (Hi Andrea)(we recently met, we are first cousins!)

I think Robert Ryder is the son of William Ryder of Barrow (his brother thomas a hero of Waterloo(1st Kings dragoons)), He is my 4x great uncle (I think thats how it works), His brother is my 4 x grandfather John Ryder also of the 1st kings dragoons and another waterloo hero, born barrow, died twyford. (Cousin Samuel mann also was present at Waterloo) Robert absconded and I think he went to live with Joseph and Mary Hill (shes John Ryders daughter), they arrived in Australia at Fort Phillip as paying migrants (£19 each, a fortune) aboad the ship Gilmore Christmas eve 1841. They went looking for their fortune! Mary and Joseph went on to have nine daughters, its a distant strain so I didnt note a lot of this down and its from poor memory. Mary and Joseph Hill are both burried at Balarat, I don't know what became of Robert Ryder.

With regards The Fewkes family at Mountsorrel/Quorn/Quorndon, I think youll find Charlotte Fewkes (Fukes) is married into the line as well a generation before Robert. (eww)

If you want to have a chat let me know, I have some very nice documents, I think your line will go back to William and Mary Ryder of Barrow. We share a line.

I hope this is of help, I should have written it down.

Leicestershire: Inglesant. Ryder. Rider. Walford. Massey. Daykin/Daikin. Newbold/Newball. Hammonds.
Great Yarmouth: Gage/Gedge. Ives. Feasley. Peartree. Royall.
Northampton, Laxton Kings Cliffe. Hercock, Heircock. Harecock. Pointon. Baxter. Burfield.
And anyone else who knows me it would seem ;-)


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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 December 16 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi George & Andrea,

WOW!! What a Christmas Gift!!

Because a lot of our future exchanges will include non-Leicestershire date; perhaps we 3 should write to each other using our direct emails. Mine is gentryleishman@gmail.com

I have Robert's parents as William RIDER & Mary with no siblings confirmed.

Looking forward to learning more; but must now clear snow from the driveway.








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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 12 December 16 22:42 GMT (UK) »
You might also enjoy this,

http://www.quornmuseum.com/artefacts/pdf/1605.pdf

Eliza Ryder (nee brown) was married to Roberts son, John. My Grandad used to tell me stories about Mad Uncle Willy Brown. My Grandad was married to Roberts 2nd cousins sister (Ethel Walford) (I think thats the relationship), he ended up with Mad Uncle Willys tools, which I have in my garage. One of the tools is an old hedgeing axe and my grandad used to chase us around his garden shouting "Mad Willys gonna get you". I wish I had listened to what he told me about the family, he knew everyone going back to the year dot. I remember this particular item as he re shafted it in the late 1970's and he taught me how to do it. I am under the impression that Willy Brown was only blind in one eye and not totally blind as this article says. I also think he had learning difficulties.

I hope thats of interest.



Leicestershire: Inglesant. Ryder. Rider. Walford. Massey. Daykin/Daikin. Newbold/Newball. Hammonds.
Great Yarmouth: Gage/Gedge. Ives. Feasley. Peartree. Royall.
Northampton, Laxton Kings Cliffe. Hercock, Heircock. Harecock. Pointon. Baxter. Burfield.
And anyone else who knows me it would seem ;-)

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Re: RYDER or RIDER in Barrow & Quorndon mystery.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 20:53 GMT (UK) »
I have this, he was transported on the ship ASIA leaving for New South Wales, Australia on 20th July 1837:-



Also I suspect this could be connected, but I have no proof :-

Leicestershire: Inglesant. Ryder. Rider. Walford. Massey. Daykin/Daikin. Newbold/Newball. Hammonds.
Great Yarmouth: Gage/Gedge. Ives. Feasley. Peartree. Royall.
Northampton, Laxton Kings Cliffe. Hercock, Heircock. Harecock. Pointon. Baxter. Burfield.
And anyone else who knows me it would seem ;-)