Brockmill, Northumberland birth for Elizabeth Dodds

[emfranky]

Hi, I am looking for a birth for an Elizabeth Dodds. On the two census that she definitely appeared on she was born in about 1838 in Brockmill. I think her parents were George (b. abt. 1819) and Sarah Dodds (b. abt. 1819). She died in Jan-Feb-Mar 1872 married to John Richardson.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks 

[CaroleW]

I'm not 100% certain but Brockmill may have come under the Alnwick registration district

Births June qtr 1838
Elizabeth Dodds      Alnwick 25 188

I think her parents were George (b. abt. 1819) and Sarah Dodds

Does her marriage cert confirm her father was called George?

She died in Jan-Feb-Mar 1872 married to John Richardson.

When & where did she marry as freebmd has no entry?  Did you get her maiden name from one of their childrens birth cert?

[keyboard86]

Hi John Richardson & Elizabeth plus an 11 month old Thomas K are with a Thomas Keen 81 Widower, shown as Grandson/Grandaughter/GG son RG09/3882/71/22 in 1871 John & Elizabeth & family are on RG10/5177/70/24

Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again in 1851 Elisabeth Dodds aged13 b Holy Island is shown as Grandaughter to Thomas & Sarah Keen in Kyloe, Belford, Northumberland
Census Ref HO107/2420/242/19

Keyboard86

[emfranky]

Hi, thank you so much for your help. I knew about the 1861 & 71 census records but I didn't find the 1851 so thanks for that  I'm 99% sure she's Dodds because the family had a tradition of using Maiden names as middle names. Their first son was Thomas Keen Richardson and their second was George Dodds Richardson. Do you think i'm right? The marriage was going to be my next question - that has been confuzzeling me for a while as I can't find it on freeBMD either. Is it a possibility that they just said they were married?

[shirl100]

I'm 99% sure she's Dodds because the family had a tradition of using Maiden names as middle names. Their first son was Thomas Keen Richardson and their second was George Dodds Richardson. Do you think i'm right?

It might also be a possibility that Dodds was Thomas Keen's wife Sarah's maiden name, a sure way would be to get one of Elizabeth & John's childrens birth cert.

Why do you think Elizabeth's parents might be George Dodds and Sarah?

Shirl

[emfranky]

Why do you think Elizabeth's parents might be George Dodds and Sarah?

It's a little bit complicated but I will try my best to explain... after Elizabeth Dodds died in 1872, John Richardson (her husband) married again. His second wife was called Sarah Keen Burn and I found out that her mother's maiden name was Barbara Dodds. In the 1841 census Barbara had a sister called Elizabeth Dodds who was born in 1838 (which fits in with my theory) and their parents were George and Sarah Dodds. Elizabeth didn't appear on the 1851 census with the family presumably because she was with her grandparents (Thomas and Sarah Keen). So, basically, I think that John Richardson's second wife was Elizabeth Dodds niece.

It seems like too much of a coincidence to me for my theory to be wrong but I still can't find a marriage between John Richardson and Elizabeth Dodds... Are all the marriage records online because I've been through the freeBMD and there aren't any other Elizabeths which fit with the year and place of birth named on the censuses. So frustrating!

I hope what I've written actually makes sense because all the intertwining links can sometimes garble my brain

[CaroleW]

Hi

Unfortunately - you can't base FH on theory/assumptions - only facts.

You definitely need to buy a copy of one of her childrens birth certs to confirm her maiden name before researching further

[shirl100]

Hi

Unfortunately - you can't base FH on theory/assumptions - only facts.

You definitely need to buy a copy of one of her childrens birth certs to confirm her maiden name before researching further

It's the only sure way I am afraid as Carole says, well worth the expense

Shirl