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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 18:02 GMT (UK) »
ok it's still a possibility then .
 I also dismissed it on the Welsh grounds our Charlotte was born + baptised in Birkenhead .
we have those certificates
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid MCDERMID McDiarmid Gardner Jones ,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson ,McKay

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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Potential death
Charlotte Hughes
BIRTH DATE:   abt 1882
DATE OF REGISTRATION:   Sep 1965
AGE AT DEATH:   83
REGISTRATION DISTRICT:   Shrewsbury Shropshire
vol   9a  page   160

The 1911 census for both James & Charlotte HUGHES states 6 children yet I can only see 5 born during the marriage

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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 23:41 GMT (UK) »
elzabels,

How can you tell how many children were born to the marriage as they can always be living with or visiting others when the censuses were taken.  With such a common surname there are numerous possible children. (Or have you got baptism or other records?)

And as the census refers to how many children born to the present marriage I do not see how significant a suspected missing child is.

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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 01 January 15 00:22 GMT (UK) »
You seem to have dismissed the marriage to Mr HUGHES on the grounds that John ROBERTS was not a Labourer. One census states he was a Borer for an Engineer...assistant / labourer?

Charlotte HUGHES can be found in 1911 as year of birth 1883 birth place Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire

Patient in Salop Infirmary Shropshire married 8 years 6 children all living

Her birth place seems to be the area from which she was admitted to the hosp, you talk of respectability new family, this person has all that  this person should not be overlooked or dismissed  and needs following through

This Charlotte Roberts is living with her mother, Eliza at their home in Haimwood, Llandrinio in 1891. The family has been transcribed as Astley which is the previous family on the census.
The Roberts family are there in other censuses. Father, John Roberts is in 1891 census in Shropshire but with the family at other times.
She is not the Charlotte from Birkenhead.
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 01 January 15 03:01 GMT (UK) »
My Charlotte's mother was Caroline nee Gardner in Helsby 1859

Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid MCDERMID McDiarmid Gardner Jones ,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson ,McKay

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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 01 January 15 09:53 GMT (UK) »
My Charlotte's mother was Caroline nee Gardner in Helsby 1859

Yes I know. I am just saying that she is not the one who married Mr Hughes in Wales who is referred to on a couple of posts here.
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 01 January 15 14:59 GMT (UK) »
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Mary was 3 in 1881 census - so presume born 1878
Nimrod Gardner from Bugbrooke ,Northamptonshire and Mary from Scotland
I presume they married in Marys homeland of Scotland ?

Married Mary EDWARDS q2 1882  Birkenhead v 8a p773 per CheshireBMD Birkenhead, Civil Marriage

Caroline GARDNER married John ROBERTS q1 1877 Birkenhead v8a p 684 CheshireBMD Birkenhead, Civil Marriage

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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 01 January 15 15:03 GMT (UK) »
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Charlotte ROBERTS q4 1953 Birkenhead v10a p32

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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 01 January 15 16:23 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this has ever been investigated: 1901 census at Castleford, Yorkshire shows an A C Percy 38 married born Lincolnshire and a comedian.   With him are a Myles aged 6 born Grimsby, Lincs. and a Lottie Percy 19 - married - born Birkenhead, Cheshire - a Comedienne!!  All shown as visitors.

Myles William C. Percy birth registered Dec.1894 Caistor.

Can find no 'A C Percy' bc.1864 Lincolnshire nor indeed any further trace of him.
Only record of Myles Percy is his birth and 1901 census.

Cannot see any obvious marriage between a Percy and a Charlotte/Lottie - perhaps Percy was not even his real surname.

Did they possibly emigrate after 1901 and before 1911?   If so, under what surname?  Myles itself is quite a distinctive Christian name but can see no trace of him in UK after 1901. 

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