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« on: Sunday 19 October 14 10:39 BST (UK) »
Can anybody find a marriage for Rebecca Cotterill and John Swain between 1859 and 1870. Probably Shrewsbury. Many Thanks.

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Re: look up
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 14 12:05 BST (UK) »
Do you have them on a census?

And how do you know Rebecca's maiden name was Cotterill?

Not seeing an obvious marriage? :-\
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Re: look up
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 14 12:21 BST (UK) »
I can't see one either.

Do you have a birth for one of the children naming that as her maiden name?

If you could give us a bit more info on them it might help  :)
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Re: look up
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 14 06:06 BST (UK) »
Hi all, just finishing shift so cannot really assist at present, but first child was John Richard Swain b 1860 Wolverhampton, Rebecca b c 1840/2 Chirbury
1861 ref RG09/1989/37/28

EDIT if the maiden name of Rebecca was not from one of the children's birth certificates then can see you possibly located her in 1851 b c 1839 as being the only Rebecca in Chirbury.
Census ref HO107/2498/256/14

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Re: look up
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 October 14 08:59 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone . I have now found her, and John Swain dies in Chester 1878, Rebecca is indexed on the 1881 census as living in Chester and also indexed as a widow.

What I can't find now is a marriage for them.

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Re: look up
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 October 14 19:09 BST (UK) »
So John Richard Swain b wolverhampton

and 
Thomas William   bapt in 1863 at Shrewsbury, Holy Trinity
Mary Elizabeth bapt in 1865 at Chirbury, Shropshire, England   
William Henry bapt in 1867 at Chirbury, Shropshire, England
All to John & Rebecca Swain, John is a Shoe maker.

They are in 1871 C for wales in Worthen, Montgomeryshire, (along with Frances b 1870)

this the correct family?
Shropshire: Bailey, Cadman, Chilton, Garbett, Pritchards
Yorkshire: Chilton, Cogan, Cooper, Farrar, Hammond, Nickless/Nicholls, Silkstone
Ireland: Brannan, Cogan, O'Connor

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Re: look up
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 October 14 20:09 BST (UK) »
Hello Many, many thanks for the response Yes! I believe this is the family.

do you have a marriage for them?

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Ken

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 October 14 22:29 BST (UK) »
No, but they are in Wolverhampton for 1861 census, which is interesting

It means we have

John is born in Montgomeryshire and goes to wolverhampton where his first son is born in 1860 (did they marry in wolverhampton - was wolverhampton a big shoe maker area?) and still there in 1861
They then move to Coleham, shrewsbury and have 3 month old Thomas William bapt in 1863
Then go to marton in Chirbury, where his wife Rebecca originates from, and have two more children
Before moving to Brockton, Montgomeryshire and having their 4th child Frances in 1870 and there in 1871
Shropshire: Bailey, Cadman, Chilton, Garbett, Pritchards
Yorkshire: Chilton, Cogan, Cooper, Farrar, Hammond, Nickless/Nicholls, Silkstone
Ireland: Brannan, Cogan, O'Connor

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Re: look up
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 October 14 23:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken, purchase of any of the children's birth certificates would provide a maiden name?!!

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