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Re: O'Toole family mystery
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 October 17 22:52 BST (UK) »
I am a granddaughter of John O'Toole and Mabel Bowron. I was born in Stockton on tees in 1963 to Denis O'Toole and Elizabeth Hart. I know nothing of my family history but would love to know more.

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Re: O'Toole family mystery
« Reply #19 on: Monday 02 October 17 11:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole63,

A little info to start you off:


This looks like your grandparents marriage:

Marriages Dec Q 1919   
Bowron    Mabel    O'Toole    Stockton    10a   162   

O'Toole    John    Bowron    Stockton    10a   162

It would appear that they had 10 children born between 1920-1937     all in Stockton (your dad being child number eight)

All this info can be found using this website:

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


There is a Mabel O'Toole (birth year 1896) death registered in 1979 in Cleveland Yorkshire

and this birth registration (year of birth matches year of birth on death reg for Mabel O'Toole):

Births Sep Q 1896 
Bowron    Mabel   (mother's maiden name Robins)      Stockton    10a   50    


This looks like Mabel Bowron 's baptism:


Mabel Bowron

Name    Mabel Bowron
Residence Place    Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
Christening Date    01 Jul 1896
Place    St. Thomas', Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
Birth Date    11 Jun 1896
Father's Name    Thomas William Bowron
Mother's Name    Rebecca

Marriage for Thomas and Rebecca:



Marriages Sep 1871
Bowron    Thomas William        Stockton    10a   109   
Robins    Rebecca         Stockton    10a   109    

 

1901 census link for the family (Mabel recorded as Mable (if you click onto the name Mable Bowron  the full record will appear):

https://tinyurl.com/yamcrkc8

This info is from this website:

https://www.familysearch.org/search


You can use now use this website and the one posted above to see if you can work back through the years to find more on/of your ancestors).























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Re: O'Toole family mystery
« Reply #20 on: Monday 02 October 17 12:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you candrjm for this info. I am completely new to this but so excited with this information. I really appreciate your help.

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Re: O'Toole family mystery
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 11 October 17 13:16 BST (UK) »
for reference the 1884 marriage 17th March 1884
Charles Tool,Ashford son of Bartholemew and Mary (still alive on this date) to
Kate Byrne,Wicklow dtr of Joseph and Margaret (decd )
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633500#page/29/mode/1up

spotted this birth 1864 but not sure its them
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRWB-9QP

edited to add Bartholemew a Carpenter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03607/2330886.pdf


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Re: O'Toole family mystery
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 11 October 17 16:53 BST (UK) »
FTR

The Society of the Holy Child Jesus was founded by a married woman - LINK for info

A most complex story of changing religion and giving permission for her husband to be ordained; he then changed his mind and there was a court case in England when he wanted her to return to him as his wife. LINK

I was always fascinated by the story as my grandmother's sister was a member of the order.
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: O'Toole family mystery
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 11 October 17 17:59 BST (UK) »
unfortunately the Ashford film starts in 1864 and ends 1881 for both baptisms and marriages
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0458

but assuming Mary born 1864 is Bartholomews last child made me think there must be much older children who got married
eg
Patrick and Bridget Doyle who married 1873
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Ushers_Quay/Rialto_Cottages/1302800/
Bridget Palmer is his married daughter
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kvd/

they Patrick and Bridget Doyle married 17th Nov 1873
140 here  note the witness Edward Moran
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633301#page/15/mode/1up

Richard Manly,North Wall to Eleonara O'Toole dtr of Bartholemew and Mary Moran 1871
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kve/

not obvious to me in 1901
however they appear to have been living at 16 Storey's Cottages in 1902 when Richard Manley died
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05704/4608617.pdf
some of the daughters seem to be spread around as domestic servants
1911 Ellen
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Storey_s_Cottages/17747/
her daughter Catherine married James Dowling in 1915 from that address
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09803/5558924.pdf

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