Author Topic: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields  (Read 6488 times)

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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 January 15 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Have you considered that he may have preferred to use his middle name John instead of Norman.

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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 January 15 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi John,
I think I would have as well.

Yup I looked at that but there turns out to be more than a few "Johns" (no pun intended)  Makepeaces around back then.
Have found a possible on a  BOAC (forerunner of the British Airways) flight to New York in 1953. However that does not even give an age that I could find.

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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 January 15 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Google "Norman Makepeace" scroll down to Page 3, and find file entitled 'Merchant Navy Awards: London Gazette 27 April 1943' and open.
This shows that a Norman Makepeace Rank: Second Engineer was awarded a MBE.  Ship: Toorak.

Is this your NJM ... ?

For information on the SS Toorak:
Google "SS Toorak" and open file entitled 'British Steam Tanker Toorak - Ships Nostalgia'
Open and scroll down to message dated 18th November 2011 from 'eriskey' for a comprehensive history of the SS Toorak.

You may also find this of interest ...
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/crews/person/63364.html

I do hope this has been a help.
Priscilla
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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 January 15 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Further to Priscilla's posting, I looked at the Merchant Navy Seaman Records on FindMyPast. There 'is' a Norman Makepeace in there, he was a 4th Engineer c1919-1921 (and so is a candidate to be the Norman in WW2) but he was born 13th Nov 1893, Felling.

If he is one of your extended Makepeace family though, there is a super photo of him on the card :-)

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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 January 15 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both of you.

Yes I agree.... I don't think he is the Norman that I am looking for... but he could be in the tree somewhere and with a bit more investigation I think he may be added later.
I had seen the Naval Norman on Ancestry before but eliminated him for the time being as he was born to early for the one I am looking for.


Again

Thank you for your help

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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 January 15 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Oh that's such a shame ...!  I was really hoping we had found him.
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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #15 on: Monday 05 January 15 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I wonder if this is worth looking at. There is a death registration for a Norman J Makeplace in the 2nd quarter of 1911.The record on find my past shows the child as having been born and died in  Tynemouth Northumberland in 1911.  I cant find a birth registration for this child in 1911 or 1910 so I wonder if this may be a wrong transcription.

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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #16 on: Monday 05 January 15 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi John,

Think you may have found it.  Always thought this was possible as no marriage or later death could be found, and if he did not go overseas then the alternative is "abducted by aliens" (not sure that was popular back then).

The other Norman was born too soon to be him so I am left with the 1911 death.  Am not a member of Find My Past and Ancestry does not show the death at all (nor does Family Search or Free BMD).

Will put a note on his name showing the 1911 death until I can enter a citation there

Thanks Very Much

Richard       
 
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Re: Norman John Makepeace B:1910, North shields
« Reply #17 on: Monday 05 January 15 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Free bmd does not have any Makepeace deaths in the second quarter of 1911 - so a page missing somehow?

Added:
Definitely MakepLace on the image:

Deaths June quarter  1911   
Norman J Makeplace     0   Tynemouth