A Hemmings Mistranscription?

[Roy G]

I am trying to find Joseph Hemmings, his wife Selina and son Joseph William Hemmings on the 1911 census. 

I know
Joseph Hemmings: born ? c1886,  died and buried Kingston 7 April 1914,
His wife Selina Emma nee Gillen (but marriage in Kingston in March qtr 1908 indexed as Gillian)
b Kingston c1890.  (Remarried to John Moult in Kingston Sept qtr 1915) died Kingston 21 August 1958
Their son Joseph William Hemmings b Kingston 1908, died Kingston 1966.  Married Kingston 1932 to Dorothy Lilian Barnes (b Kingston 1907 - d Kingston 1982) 

As can be seen, their life pattern suggests they were strongly rooted in the Kingston upon Thames area, but having drawn a blank when looking for them in 1911, I am wondering if their surname has be mistranscribed on the census index. 

My main aim is to identify the parents of Joseph senior and his place of birth, so most grateful for any leads.

Roy G

[KGarrad]

The marriage will help with his father?

13th January 1908  at Christchurch, Surbiton Hill, Surrey

Joseph Hemmings, age 20, Bachelor, Labourer
Selina Gilliam, age 19, Spinster

Both of 18 The Retreat, Surbiton Hill

Fathers: William Hemming (Stoker) and Henry Gilliam, deceased (profession not known)
Witnesses: Albert James Hemmings and Lilian Edith Hemmings

[avm228]

The witness Albert James Hemmings appears to have been born in Liverpool - birth reg West Derby Dec qtr 1881.

Marriage to Lilian Edith Nobbs was 5 Sep 1903 Norbiton - his father William David Hemmings, stoker.

Witnesses: James Brockwell, Sarah Ann Brockwell.


...and re these witnesses in turn:

James Brockwell married Sarah Ann Hemmings, All Saints Kingston, 28.3.1900.

Her father William Hemmings, gas stoker.

[keyboard86]

Hi in 1901 the family are shown as HENNINGS on my site in Kingston upon Thames
Census ref RG13/665/134/28

Keyboard86

[avm228]

In 1891 they're in Kirtlington, Oxfordshire (as Hemmings).

RG12/1170/29/21.

[Lostris]

No transcriptions - can anyone confirm that this is Joseph's Birth Index entry ? (the only chap with no middle name in a period around 1888)


Births Dec 1887 

HEMMINGS  Joseph     Barton R.  6a 87

[Roy G]

Thanks so much for really giving me lots to look at regarding the Henmmings

Another interesting thing is a contrasting name for Selina's father.  Being known as Henry contradicts my research so I need to dig a little deeper there as well.  I have him as an Eli (or Ely) Gillen-Watson, born Kingston 1860, joined the army as Watson 1877 aka Gillen, spent time in India and Burmah before returning and being demobbed as Eli Gillen.  I think I need to go back to the few censuses Eli was on to verify Eli and Henry were the same person before progressing.
Roy G

[avm228]

No transcriptions - can anyone confirm that this is Joseph's Birth Index entry ? (the only chap with no middle name in a period around 1888)

Births Dec 1887 

HEMMINGS  Joseph     Barton R.  6a 87

This is likely to be a different Joseph - baptised to Joseph & Eliza in Redfield, Glos. Born 9.9.1887, baptised 25.10.1887.

There is a possible late registration for "our" Joseph: Joseph Hemmings Sep qtr 1891 Abingdon, which matches the district where they were in the 1891 census.

[Lostris]