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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 March 15 04:03 GMT (UK) »
Charlotte Jones born 30 March 1878 died 20 August 1961 Alameda. Mothers Maiden Name White.


There is a border crossing Canada to the USA - departure Liverpool - arrival Halifax Nova Scotia - 17 January 1910 - Hannah Hillman Jones - born 1840 England and aged 70 years. Brother John White. 56 Dickfield Road. (Hard to read the place name) Minehead/Nunehead  ???

The Canadian Passenger List entry is for the Tunisian but no further details.

17 February 1914 border crossing for Hannah and Charlotte gave brother john White 56 Drakesville Road. Could be Minehead but then it could be Nunhead S E London  ???

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 March 15 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Charlotte Jones born 20 March 1878 San Francisco travelled Liverpool to New York  arriving 26 April 1932 on the Scythia. Going to 2114 E 28 th Oakland California.

On a UK Return Passenger List 15 sept 1931 - Charlotte (retired) was going to 1 Elliston Road. Redland. Bristol

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 March 15 04:33 GMT (UK) »
Louis Herman jones married in Manhattan to Eleanor Elizabeth Haines - 15 November 1899
Cert 18154

http://italiangen.org/records-search/grooms.php

Eleanor Elizabeth Jones - (Eleanor Elizabeth Haines) born 21 February 1875 New Jersey died 4th October 1943 Alameda California.

Eleanor Elizabeth Haines daughter of Benjamin Haines and Mary Augusta Davis

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=our_cranes&id=I22589

Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey 1880

Benjamin Haines  53 Mary A. Haines  50
Henry F. Haines  12 Elizabeth Haines  5

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 March 15 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra amazing info.
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There is a border crossing Canada to the USA - departure Liverpool - arrival Halifax Nova Scotia - 17 January 1910 - Hannah Hillman Jones - born 1840 England and aged 70 years. Brother John White. 56 Dickfield Road. (Hard to read the place name) Minehead/Nunehead  ??? 

Her brother John William Henry WHITE died 1914 and per his probate record his address was 56 Drakefield Rd Nunhead Deptford Kent.

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 March 15 11:53 GMT (UK) »
You're very welcome. Pleased it helped fill some gaps for you. Think the address for brother John White was becoming clearer bit by bit  :P

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 14 March 15 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all the info you have given has been a great help.
I think her entry into USA must have been about 1869. I cannot find her on the 1871 English census so was wondering if there is anything for her on the 1870 USA census. I cannot find a marriage for Hannah WHITE and John JONES in England so they may have married in the USA.

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 14 March 15 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Couldn't find anything conclusive when I looked for her or them on passenger lists and didn't find a marriage.  The marriage could have been anywhere along the journey. First child born California May 1871
Did find a Hannah Jones in Oakland in 1870 of the right age but no John with her (wasn't sure if that was just a coincidence)

Oakland, Alameda, California 1870

Isriah Knox  43 Rebbeca Knox  43 Chas W Knox  7
Hannah Jones  29  Born England.  (No further info)
J Mcintyre  30
Mary Laskin  22
H Elland  20
H Downes  40
G W Moine  35

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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 14 March 15 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for having a look Sandra appreciate that the name JONES and WHITE are so common.
Would like to find a marriage to confirm his parents.
There is a John Andrews JONES born to Thomas Meredith JONES and Jane in 1832 Totnes Devonshire which looks likely but need more proof.
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Re: John Andrews JONES and Hannah Hillman JONES nee WHITE
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 14 March 15 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Can't find a death record for John A Jones which might have been helpful.  Did you notice on the image for the family in 1880 - there was a Hannah White aged 28 listed as a servant - cook born Ireland. (just below Charlotte) ???

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