No idea where to look next for Thomas and Ellen Entwistle

[heywood]

Heather,

I thought it was this family

1861 2847/66/36

Bk Simpson St Bury

Abraham Entwistle 42 yrs labourer in Iron b Oldham
Ellen Entwistle   42 yrs b Yarmouth
Harriett Entwistle 19 yrs cotton Spinner b St John's, Newfoundland
Matilda Entwistle 14 yrs Cotton Spinner b Manchester
William Entwistle 11 yrs Doffer b Halifax
Thomas Entwistle 9 yrs  b Halifax
James Entwistle 7 yrs b Manchester


Heywood

**Harriett is Margaret in earlier census and Ellen is born Weymouth in others.

[heywood]

That family are here:

1851 2298/627/22 - Halifax

Thomas and mother Ellen are at 1871 3952 /32/ 57 - Heywood

Lancs OPC
1870 marriage St Mary, Bury
William Entwistle - father Abraham, brick maker

[heatherjulie]

Hi Heywood
It was the birth place of Halifax that threw me. I was looking for a birth in Heywood with the father Abraham a bricklayer

[heywood]

Yes I looked last night but it was too late to follow up. I have tried today to look more closely at Abraham and Ellen and I am not at sure about the one option I have seen.
This does look like Thomas but we will have to see what gnorman thinks.

[gnorman]

Hi Everyone, thank you all so much for your hard work, I've struggled for over a year to get anywhere with this and i really think we're on to something here. To me the Logan information seems like a dead cert. As for Thomas Entwistle and his family, I'm uncertain without more digging but I am leaning towards the first suggestion with my gut instinct. I'll take all the information you've found for me and check it with everything else I have for Thomas and Ellen's children etc.

Thank you all and I'll let you know if I can confirm things either way,
Luke

[heywood]

Hi Luke,
Which one is your gut instinct? Do you mean the one who is the son of James and Maria?

Heywood

[gnorman]

Yep, son of Maria and Step Son of James I think : )

[heywood]

It is difficult with such a common name.

The Thomas you have with James as stepfather, also had a father James.

[mosiefish]

I personally like parents Abraham and Ellen for Thomas.  I suspect they married in 1850 at Bury and Ellen Odea/O`Dea nee Wilson was a widow.  Both were described as of Heywood.   My theory is that the earlier children were Ellens.  I think the birth certificate of Thomas born Halifax would be in order.

Just my thoughts.

Mo