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MASTERS family, Chard
« on: Tuesday 17 March 15 07:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am looking for descendants of the MASTERS family. My great grand father Alfred John MASTERS was born in 1893 in Chard. His parents are James Partridge MASTERS and Mary Ellen Saunders. They were in Guernsey in the 1901 census.

I have a photo of MASTERS family at Christmas 1944 or 1945 in Chard.
Those listed in the photo are:
Back row,
John, Dick, Brian, Barbara, Allan, Arch and Jim,
Front row, June, Elsie, Percy, Grandad, Grandma, Olive, John, Ada
Baby, Gillian

I think that the Grandad would be George MASTERS and that is James Partridge Masters brother, and I know that he had a son Percy. And that's about all I know at the moment. Would love some help.

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Just for ref. this marriage:
Marriages Dec 1889   
Masters    James Partridge        Wincanton   
Saunders    Mary Ellen        Wincanton   

Do you know if this is James Partridge Masters' death?
Deaths Mar 1925 
Masters    James P    58    Chard    5c   445

How long did they stay in Guernsey?
Which child (after Alfred John)  are you descended from, and have you started looking for births, marriages and deaths on free bmd?

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 22:49 GMT (UK) »
So James with brother George, both butchers, and parents in 1891:

Civil Parish:   Chard  Ecclesiastical parish:   St Mary   County/Island:   Somerset
Registration district:   Chard
James P Masters   24 Yetminster Dorset
Mary Masters   31  wife
Bessie Masters   6/12  daughter  Chard
George Masters   23  Yetminster
Alfred Masters   54   Bradford Abbas Dorset
Theresa Masters   49  Ryme Intrinseca, Dorset,

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 March 15 07:02 GMT (UK) »
Just for ref. this marriage:
Marriages Dec 1889   
Masters    James Partridge        Wincanton   
Saunders    Mary Ellen        Wincanton   

Do you know if this is James Partridge Masters' death?
Deaths Mar 1925 
Masters    James P    58    Chard    5c   445

How long did they stay in Guernsey?
Which child (after Alfred John)  are you descended from, and have you started looking for births, marriages and deaths on free bmd?

Thank you so much for your quick reply. Sorry about the delay on my side

. I know Alfred John MASTERS got married to Laura Ada Naftel in Guernsey 1920 before they immigrated to New Zealand.  Lawrence MASTERS is my grandfather (Alfred John MASTERS only son). The photo is part of nana and granddads suitcase of photos and i would just love to be able to make some contact with family. As Grandad doesn't really know about his family overseas and any contact has been lost long ago.

And yes that is the year James P MASTERS died.


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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 March 15 07:41 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for not returning.  Thought someone else would have picked up on this if more than 400 views have occurred by now.

George also married a Saunders - are they all related?

Marriages June quarter 1892 on the same page, 5c 819
George Masters     Wincanton   
Sarah Jane Saunders        Wincanton   

Births March quarter 1868 
George Masters Sherborne    5a   361

Deaths March quarter 1956
 George Masters  88  Chard   

You can find the family in 1901 with children Percy G age 3 and Clara O age 1.
And easily found also in 1911

Clara O's marriage (to Arch from the photo?)
Marriages June quarter  1928   
Clara O Masters Chard   
Archibald   Mitchem    Chard

and her death
Clara Olive Mitchem Birth 30th August 1899 death Dec 1970 Devon Central

look for children on free bmd, one seems to correspond to photo name.

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 March 15 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Also names from photo

Marriages June quarter  1935 
Ada V Masters  Chard    John J Parkhouse Chard   

But cannot see definite death for her.

Look for children on free bmd.

We have a few more names to go - can you roughly age all the people from the photo, so we know which generations we are looking for?

'John, Dick, Brian, Barbara, Allan, Arch and Jim,
Front row, June, Elsie, Percy, Grandad, Grandma, Olive, John, Ada
Baby, Gillian'

(Presumably Clara Olive is known as Olive for the photo, so others may also go by second names?)

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 March 15 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for not returning.  Thought someone else would have picked up on this if more than 400 views have occurred by now.

George also married a Saunders - are they all related?

Marriages June quarter 1892 on the same page, 5c 819
George Masters     Wincanton   
Sarah Jane Saunders        Wincanton   

Births March quarter 1868 
George Masters Sherborne    5a   361

Deaths March quarter 1956
 George Masters  88  Chard   

You can find the family in 1901 with children Percy G age 3 and Clara O age 1.
And easily found also in 1911

Clara O's marriage (to Arch from the photo?)
Marriages June quarter  1928   
Clara O Masters Chard   
Archibald   Mitchem    Chard

and her death
Clara Olive Mitchem Birth 30th August 1899 death Dec 1970 Devon Central

look for children on free bmd, one seems to correspond to photo name.

Hi....
its okay we are all busy....i think that the brothers married sisters but i haven't looked into it enough to be able to confirm this. :)

Thank you fo the hints, i will see if i can upload the photo, maybe that will help :)

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 March 15 08:00 GMT (UK) »
lets see if i can get the photo on here

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Re: MASTERS family, Chard
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 March 15 08:16 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 Percival G Masters born close together:

The one from the 1901 census, so the son of George:
Births December quarter  1897  Percival George Masters  Wellington, Somerset

and this one born in Chard, so making any marriages more difficult to assign

Births March quarter 1902  Percival George Masters  Chard   

2 marriages possible, but there is no Eveline or Rose in that photo.

Aaah.

Ignore above
Births September quarter 1897   
Percy George Masters    Chard   

Marriage to an Elsie
Marriages September quarter 1928  Elsie M Butt    Percy G Masters    Wincanton   

 Percy George Masters  Birth 10 Jul 1897  Death  Dec 1975  Yeovil, Somerset

Quite a few possible children to that marriage - look at names on photo to cross-reference.

Possible death for Elsie:
    Elsie May Masters Birth 27 Feb 1901  Death Nov 2003  South Somerset, Somerset