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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 April 15 19:40 BST (UK) »
Could this be Ernest in a bit of bother
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM38-GYQ

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 April 15 11:04 BST (UK) »
James Lesware and Jane Magill ?
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Charlemont_Avenue/1318575/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/George_s_Street__Lower/91458/

1878 Advertisement    Mechanical Engineering and Turret Clock Factory,4 Fleet St .
James Lesware late foreman of J Booth ans son.
Edit from the Irish Builder(provided a link but not showing ?)

Isabella Lesware married Reuben Trowbridge 24 Feb 1904
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY8S-BZD
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__4/Islington_Avenue/98252/
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/61098608/

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 April 15 13:19 BST (UK) »
you would probably need to see the actual church entry in the register to see if the wife Jane is mistranscribed as Maginn
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZ7-BGP
some births mother Connor ,Magill,Maginon
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bfather_givenname%3Ajames~%20%2Bfather_surname%3Alesware~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Ajane~&collection_id=1584963


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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 April 15 13:53 BST (UK) »
thankyou all for this, i am personally assuming that alice never married i am sure this couple had a fling, and produced 2 illigitamate children, it is the only conclusion i can come up with
PAGDEN/PAGDIN.. SPALDING.. SHEPPARD.. baverstock..lesware..leslie

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 April 15 14:24 BST (UK) »
Actually think the mothers name is Jane Maginn and is most likely mistranscribed on her daughters birth in 1872 as Magill.
If you scroll down through this lot you will see what i mean.
http://www.myheritage.com/research?action=query&formId=1&formMode=0&qname=Name+fnmo.2+fnmsvos.1+fnmsmi.1+ln.Lesware+lnmo.3+lnmsdm.1+lnmsmf3.1+lnmsrs.1&p=1

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 April 15 14:40 BST (UK) »
Woodley
you are probably correct

There is a death record in Rathdown in 1930 of an Ernest LESWARE
Civil Reference Q2 V2 P501
This could prove of interest if the correct Ernest
I think Emily LESWARE died in 1913

Also interestingly there is a child on the 1911 census named Cecil LESWARE
He is living in a "Home for Crippled Children" at 9.3 in New Dargle Road (Bray No.1, Wicklow)

Aged 7 the corresponding birth for him seems to be an Ernest Cecil LESWARE in Dublin South
Civil Reference Q3 V2 P586

What is interesting is the 1911 census does not show a child missing from a family from what I can see; and the name is intriguing

Just for interest!
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 April 15 14:57 BST (UK) »
again thankyou for the intrest in this topic, it seems that alice lived 700 yards from ernest john lesware , but in the vincinity is the local church st.marys , this is where ernest john lesware married emily m fisher in 1885, yet when alice has two children she travels to all saints church about 3 miles away to baptise her children, on the sons bap record it states father ernest john lesware ,the lesware surname is clearly written along with her surname leslie , but then there is a line going through the lesware surname but it still is clear, eventually alice travells to glasnevin where she settles down with her 2 children, this is why i am sure/certain that alice had a fling or a full blown affair with this ernest j lesware which produced 2 illigitamate children , the daughter eventually marries into my baverstock line
PAGDEN/PAGDIN.. SPALDING.. SHEPPARD.. baverstock..lesware..leslie

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #17 on: Monday 13 April 15 15:13 BST (UK) »
It's surprising Alice didn't claim to be a widow in the Censes'
What was Eileen's father listed as on the marriage?