Frederick Ralph Caleb Jutsum Census /born ?

[frederickay]

Hi , i have just looked at the 1841 London  census for Frederick  Ralph Caleb Jutsum ... it was under Jutsas ... and noticed it says he was born out of COUNTY .
 In all my years of research because he was baptised in Bond Street Westminster  i have believed /assumed ... and you know what they say about assumed.  he was born there .

 Can sks look at the 1851 /6 census for him and let me know if it says he was born in Kent ?

 It will help me find his parents line if it does . Thank you . His name is Frederick Ralph Caleb JUTSUM and his wife is Lavinia Fredericka . known as Fredericka . They lived in  Chelsea ,Battersea and Bermondsey .
Thank you

[JJen]

1851 transcribed as Jutsam  -

Frederick Jutsam   37 b. St Ge H Sq, Middlesex
Frederica Jutsam   34
Ellen Jutsam   15
Charles Jutsam   11
Henway Jutsam   9
William Jutsam   3
George Jutsam   2
Henry Jutsam   6 Mo

HO107 Piece 1472 Folio 139 Page 15, Chelsea

JJ

[JJen]

1861 records his birthplace as Middlesex.

1871 - Bond St, WC, Middlesex

1881 - Hanover Sq, Middlesex

Bit of extra info  -

Frederick Ralph Caleb Jutsum
Birth Date - 14 Feb 1814
Birth Place - London, Greater London
Death Date - 13 Mar 1887
Death Place - Battersea, Greater London
Spouse - Frederika Lavinia Jutsum
Father - William Cook Jutsum
Mother - Mary Jutsum

JJ

[groom]

Have you seen this  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=71000857&ref=acom  ?

[JJen]

Apologies Groom,

I amended my 2nd post and then saw your post with a link to similar info.

JJ

[frederickay]

Hi Thank you for your very quick reply . It does explain why I have always thought he was born in London . I will go back and study the 1841 census ,maybe I was looking on the wrong line  TY .FRED

[cath151]

Baptism 22 March 1817(19?)
St George Hanover Square
Frederick Ralph Caleb Jutsam parents William Cook and Mary Jutsam, living at ? Court, William was a painter.
Immediately underneath attached to same details
Hubert ? Lackey?
The image is difficult to read in places.
Cathy

[frederickay]

Wow Cathy, TY>  I haven't seen that before .
 There was a brother with the second name Hubert Potts Lockie  ,another George Steiner  second names  which I have not found before or since so don't know the significance of such definite second names .
 Where did you find this baptism could I try and look at it ? 
 I found a William Cook Jutsum as a Glazier  in Devon . I have been looking to confirm this WCJ occupation for some time .

I have not found what happenned to those first  two brothers .
I have followed the fourth brother Thomas Cheeseman Jutsum . His name all but confirms  that their mother was Mary Cheeseman who married a William Cook jutsum in Kent . hence why I thought it was a possibility WCJ was born there .
Thanks again .
Fred

[cath151]

Have sent pm, George Steiner/Skinner baptism is also on the same page, address is clearer,Lancaster Court.
Cathy