scots miner to New Zealand mill hand . James Duff Black

[Lucy2]

Hi brigidmac

No need to start a separate thread for a probate look-up.

You can view them for free at the following link (familysearch.org).   

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481

   ~  Lu

[Janette]

Thanks Lu

I keep forgetting that they have been digitised

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

This looks like the death of the ? daughter mentioned in James probate

2003/13430   Dwyer    Jean Kyle    17/10/1923   79Y

Cheers Janette

[brigidmac]

i tried looking but computer says i have the wrong browser

yes i've come across the name jean kyle dwyer as a possible daughter before .

i'll check the james black on the wandilla 1912 ,could just be a mistake with his profession on the ship docu or it could be the wrong man

[Janette]

Here is a later arrival in 1923 from Southhampton aboard the RMS Rotorua

BLACK Mr James aged 33yrs occupation miner

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12439-28884-75?cc=1609792

[whiteout7]

hmm, no marriage between James Black and Jeane McDermid in New South Wales Australia between 1911 and 1928

If you search Scotlandspeople.gov.uk there is a James Black marring a J.McDermid (surname variant check on) between 1911 and 1928 in Lanarkshire.

[brigidmac]

it's not the Southampton J>Black as the couple were together in NZ by 1928 .I don't think James Duff Black would have been classed as English .
I tried the free surname search on Scotlandspeople ..I'm not a member lots of James Black marriages but only 1 James D Black which i narrowed down to marriage btween 1920-1922 but it didn't work when I tried J Mcdermid or MacDermid

ps just looked at my own father's birth cert 1930 it was spelt McDermid though he always insisted on the Mac spelling which his parents + sister used .

[Lucy2]

Hi brigidmac

This looks like them ?

Southampton to Wellington, New Zealand -- departed 12 February 1926 

BLACK
- James - 32 - Miner
- Jean - 36 - h/w (housewife)
- James - 4
- Jean - 2
Nationality :   All Scottish

Last address:   12 Draffanbank (looks like) - Motherwell

Ship :   "Rotorua"

   ~  Lu

[whiteout7]

Awesome Lucy, Motherwell is in Lanarkshire

Brigid
Unfortunately Scotlandspeople is a pay as you go site. If I had one credit left I would have opened it for you. I think that marriage will have to stay on the possible list. You just missed out on free credits last month.

My own Gr.grandfather (born 1895)  was a coal miner and from Fife, who brought his wife to NZ (No other close family here). So there was something afoot in Scotland - I wonder if NZ advertised for these men and helped pay their way out here after WW1?

My Gr.grandfather was a soldier in WW1 too and has British WW1 records.