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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 24 May 15 03:46 BST (UK) »
   Again thanks for your help and interest, Sue and Cando.    Yes, this has to be another Lily as she was born 1894 and Lillian was born in 1929.    Then wow, another Piggins girl marrying another Rawnsley.

    Alex tells me that Melville was the spitting image of Robert William Piggins, so we tend to think that the marriage didn't really break up finally until 1946.   Maybe it is my imagination but I can see a resemblance in this photo to that of George Piggins of the Rabbitoh's.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 24 May 15 03:52 BST (UK) »
Malcolm,
So Melville was 14 or 15 when Robert departed for Australia.

So there could be no question that Robert knew about Melville if the marriage remained until 1946

Is it not possible to locate the divorce details/documents?
Sue


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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 24 May 15 04:37 BST (UK) »
   I guess there should be a court record of the divorce somewhere - but Alex did tell me - ".  All was recorded with a Consett firm of Solicitors who have since gone out of business, and their records disappeared with them. "

    I've just had another look at a page on the net which does show Robert and that he married an Askew - http://www.piggin.org/charts/qflegg.htm    I have had some initial contact with Jean-Baptiste but will have to get back to him as he has so much more on the Australian Piggins who it seems were all relatives of the Consett Piggins.   Well we did know that they came from Norfolk.

    So one big question now is whether the Sydney Piggins came from the Melbourne Piggins.
 
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 24 May 15 04:56 BST (UK) »
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I guess there should be a court record of the divorce somewhere - but Alex did tell me - ".  All was recorded with a Consett firm of Solicitors who have since gone out of business, and their records disappeared with them. "

Surely as in Australia, there are divorce files which are available to the public.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm
https://www.gov.uk/copy-decree-absolute-final-order

Cando
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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 24 May 15 04:57 BST (UK) »
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I've just had another look at a page on the net which does show Robert and that he married an Askew -

Posted on the thread.

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 24 May 15 04:58 BST (UK) »
       I've just had another look at a page on the net which does show Robert and that he married an Askew - http://www.piggin.org/charts/qflegg.htm    .

I doubt there are many certificate sightings in the elaborate family tree.

We already knew  Robert married an Askew -

   
     I have had some initial contact with Jean-Baptiste but will have to get back to him as he has so much more on the Australian Piggins who it seems were all relatives of the Consett Piggins.   Well we did know that they came from Norfolk.

    So one big question now is whether the Sydney Piggins came from the Melbourne Piggins.
 



The PIGGINS of NSW were not all in Sydney.

I have not been able to make any links at all between the RAWNSLEYs of Tasmania and the RAWNSLEYs of NSW

I have not been able to make any links at all between Robert PIGGINS of England (and later Victoria) and the PIGGINS of NSW .

Sue

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 24 May 15 08:05 BST (UK) »
I do not have resources for Tasmanian BMDs but others in the forum do.

However,  I think it is safe to say Cleave Henry Devlin RAWNSLEY (who married Daisy Eileen ??) and Maxwell Hansley RAWNSLEY were brothers.

Their parents were, I think, Charles Henry RAWNSLEY and Veronica Mary (nee BISHOP)

The electoral rolls show this couple together from 1914 first at Waratah, Darwin Tas. where he was a fitter.
In 1919 he has become a police constable and this is also the case in 1928.
In 1936 they are together at Scamander where he is the proprietor of the Ocean Beach Hotel.
In 1943 Cleave joins them, registering to vote at Scamander. He is a labourer and by 1949 Daisy Eileen is also there at the Hotel.
 
As previously mentioned, Maxwell Hansley RAWNSLEY was registered to vote in Scamander in 1949 and 1954.

When Maxwell joined the AIF in 1942 his next of kin was Veronica RAWNSLEY. He gave his date of birth as 21 Feb 1921 and was living in St Kilda Victoria

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=484504

In 1958, Veronica Mary RAWNSLEY moved to Victoria and was registered at the same address  as a male of the same surname who may have been another son.

She remained in Victoria until 1977 and her addresses can be given if needed.
She died in QLD

1982   6109   Veronica Mary RAWNSLEY
Parents Henry DEVLIN & Annie BiISHOP

Sue

ADDING A note of interest.

The 1972 address for Veronica Mary RAWNSLEY was 8 Lantana Street, Blackburn
The 1972 address for Kate FURSTON and her daughter Elizabeth and son-in-law Robert PIGGINS was 28 Muir Street Mt Waverley.
There are only a few kilometres  between the two.


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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 24 May 15 10:50 BST (UK) »
RAWNSLEY divorce Tasmania 1949 - married 1944 no children.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article26507640
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article52663630

Maxwell RAWNSLEY in Court  in 1951 in Tasmania
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article52812560

1952 Finds his nephew who had drowned
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article52882737

Illegal use of nets 1954
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article96390506

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 26 May 15 05:39 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this has already been mentioned but it looks like Christina (Askew) never remarried.

Christina Piggins
Birth:  3 Feb 1905
Death:  Jan 1990 - Durham Northern, Durham, England
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