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Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« on: Thursday 21 May 15 22:07 BST (UK) »
Hello I have just recently discovered my 5 x great grandfather William Palmer was a gunmaker and cutler of Strood. Iam interested to try and find out more information on him and his family. Some information I've obtained from census work and by googling "gun maker"

William Palmer born c1769 poss Chatham Gunmaker married Charlotte ? abt 1800

children are as follows
Mary 1801-1841
William 1802
Eliza 1804-1807
William Edward 1807-1807
Eliza 1807
Ann 1808
Sarah Sussanna 1809-1894 married William G Chaney (went to NZ)
John Henry 1810-1875
George Robert 1813-
Edward Alexander 1815-1874 Gun maker married Alice Barber
Matilda 1819-1899

Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 May 15 09:33 BST (UK) »
William PALMER was Buried 21 May 1839, St Nicholas of Myra, Rochester, Kent age 70 (1769) as you have.
Charlotte his Wife 23 Jan 1853 same Church age 75
(FreeREG)

FreeREG also has 8 Children Baptised to them same Church 1801-1819

1851 Charlotte Palmer is born c 1779 Tenterdon, Kent***

The only possible Marriage I can find is;
William PALMER
Charlotte PAINE
10 Aug 1800, St Andrew Holborn, City of London
Witnesses W Palmer/ Rd Perry

F/S has a Charlotte PAINE Christened  10 June 1778, Tenterden, Kent
Parents THOMAS/MARY
Siblings;
CHARLES Paine 17 Jan 1772
WILLIAM Paine 9 March 1774
+ a possible earlier Children;
MARY Paine19 June 1761
FANNY 19 Oct 1762
THOMAS 25 Jan 1764
LEEDS Paine 4 April 1766

Trish :)
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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 May 15 09:54 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you so much seem's to fit well. thank you so much
Cheers
Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport


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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 May 15 10:06 BST (UK) »
Mary would have to be very pregnant (not unusual in those days) but this is a possible Marriage from FreeREG;
Thomas PAINE/Mary BALCOMBE, 9 April 1761, St Mildred, Tenterden

Not the Leeds mentioned born c 1766 but there is this Mariage that must be a Grandchild I presume of his;
LEEDS Paine married Caroline Mary WEBB, 1 Jan 1824, St Nicholas of Myra, Rochester, Kent
Notes, Married 'with consent of parents'
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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 May 15 10:07 BST (UK) »
Your welcome ;D
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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 May 15 10:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you found a wonderfull picture of the Palmers Gun makers shop in High Street, Rochester on Citiark medway archives. Thanks for the Paine info. Much appreciated
Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 May 15 11:25 BST (UK) »
There are some PAINE monumental  inscriptions which should help

http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsTenterden/MIsTenterden.htm
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Palmer family of High St, Strood (GUN MAKERS & CULTERS) 1797 onwards
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 May 15 11:38 BST (UK) »
Chaney's Corner, Christchurch, New Zealand

William George Chaney (12 March 1883) at his residence, Chaney's Corner Aged 80
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=CHP18830312.2.11&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0Chaney%27s+Corner--

Christchurch Probate files
CHANEY Sarah Susannah - Chaney's Corner - Widow 1894
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22386481

*Sarah Sussanah CHANEY bur. 6 December 1894 age 85 res: Chaneys
Corner, Belfast
*William CHANEY bur. 13 March 1883 age 80 of Chaneys Corner occ: stonemason
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~babznz/chaney.html

And what stonemason William and his son were - unfortunately the Christchurch Cathedral met its demise just recently. Randolph Theodore Chaney was born on 10th September, 1850 at Bay of Biscay aboard the “Randolph” on its way to Lyttelton.
http://www.peelingbackhistory.co.nz/randolph-theodore-chaney-1850-1928/
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)