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The Saddle inn
« on: Monday 08 June 15 11:06 BST (UK) »
Looking for some info on this pub regarding the following person,

Cornelius O Cain
Vitullar
Sunderland
Durham

How long did he have this pub,also any photographs ? much appreciated

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Re: The Saddle inn
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 June 15 11:42 BST (UK) »
The Saddle Inn, High Street East, dated from 1777 to February 1918, when the licence expired. You can see it on the map at http://www.durham-images.org/public/ms/m16/m16sb5.html at the corner of Drury Lane and High Street East.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 June 15 11:54 BST (UK) »
Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Thursday 09 March 1899
O'Cain. - On the 9th inst., aged 53 years, Cornelius O'Cain, beloved husband of Mary O'Cain, of 3, George Street, Sunderland; late of the Saddle Inn. To be interred on Sunday; lift at 2 o'clock. Friends please accept this (the only) intimation. R.I.P.
He was in the Saddle Inn in the 1881 census, but by 1891 he was a labourer in a Shipyard, living at 3 George Street.
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Re: The Saddle inn
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 June 15 18:24 BST (UK) »
For 'Vitullar', read 'Victualler' (Collins - 'a licensed purveyor of spirits ; innkeeper')
Preston in Newcastle (1770-1850) ; Brumwell - Weardale and Newcastle ; Wylie (Newcastle 1800-1870) ; Slaughter (Sussex and South Shields 1750-1850) ; Barkas (Newcastle 1750-1850) ; Redshaw (Medomsley and Newcastle 1750-1850) ; Simpson (Hamsterley 1720-1820) ; Anderson (Ryton 1750-1850) ; Chilton (Darlington 1750-1920) ; Pattison (West Tanfield, Bellerby, Northallerton) ; Sanderson (Hamsterley and Stanhope (1750-1850)


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 June 15 19:26 BST (UK) »
A  victualling house (Licensed Victualler) was one where persons were provided with food and drink, to be consumed on the premises, but not lodgings, Publican is a term for someone who keeps a public house which provides drink but does not provide food or lodgings. An Inn (Inn-keeper) was where persons were provided with food and drink and lodgings.
A Beer House was only licensed to sell beer, a Public House could also sell wines and spirits.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 June 15 22:12 BST (UK) »
Interesting Stan - the additional precision of your definition (source?) suggests that the Collins definition is a tad woolly in defining a victualler as an innkeeper since it loses the distinction between one who offers and who doesn't offer accommodation.
Preston in Newcastle (1770-1850) ; Brumwell - Weardale and Newcastle ; Wylie (Newcastle 1800-1870) ; Slaughter (Sussex and South Shields 1750-1850) ; Barkas (Newcastle 1750-1850) ; Redshaw (Medomsley and Newcastle 1750-1850) ; Simpson (Hamsterley 1720-1820) ; Anderson (Ryton 1750-1850) ; Chilton (Darlington 1750-1920) ; Pattison (West Tanfield, Bellerby, Northallerton) ; Sanderson (Hamsterley and Stanhope (1750-1850)

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 June 15 22:18 BST (UK) »
From the Oxford English Dictionary
Victualler:  A purveyor of victuals or provisions; spec. one who makes a business of providing food and drink for payment; a keeper of an eating-house, inn, or tavern; a licensed victualler.
licensed victualler, one who has a licence to sell food or drink, but esp. the latter, to be consumed on the premises


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« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 June 15 22:30 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 June 15 22:33 BST (UK) »
Yes, I think that lets Collins off the hook since their definition, while naturally not as full as the OED's, doesn't differ from it.
Preston in Newcastle (1770-1850) ; Brumwell - Weardale and Newcastle ; Wylie (Newcastle 1800-1870) ; Slaughter (Sussex and South Shields 1750-1850) ; Barkas (Newcastle 1750-1850) ; Redshaw (Medomsley and Newcastle 1750-1850) ; Simpson (Hamsterley 1720-1820) ; Anderson (Ryton 1750-1850) ; Chilton (Darlington 1750-1920) ; Pattison (West Tanfield, Bellerby, Northallerton) ; Sanderson (Hamsterley and Stanhope (1750-1850)