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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 July 15 00:40 BST (UK) »
Hi yet again FTB,

Copies of the  McKINNEY stud books can be found at:
PRONI  T1013/1-3
LDS  British Film 0258610.

[An entry in McKINNEY's diary for 19-MAY-1861 (PRONI T3234/127) shows that he returned from his brief sojourn to Canada in a vessel commanded by a Captain McMASTER.]
 

It looks like WFMcK did NOT include information from the Lyle Hill church records.

The following were definitely included:
Carnmoney Pb (Old Session Books)
Carnmoney CoI (restricted to 500 names from marriages and births)
Templepatrick
Ballyeaston
Ballylinney
Hydepark
Ballycraigy Cg

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Another strong influence in churching of the family might have been the preference of the owner of the paper mill.

Mr. James BLOW of Dunadry donated 6 poor boxes to the Pb church at Templepatrick in 1816.
[Ref: p110 - "Templepatrick" section - of the OS Memoirs for County Antrim VIII, Vol. 35]

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The McMASTER surname in Ireland is virtually exclusive to Ulster.
[With most of these hailing from counties Antrim and Down.]

The name derives from Gaelic "Mac an Mhaighstir" - 'son of the master'.
[Master in this sense means a 'cleric'.]

MacMASTERs, a sept of Clan BUCHANAN lived on Loch Lomondside.

The chief of the MacMASTERs in Ardgour, Argyllshire gave offence to the Lord of Isles in the 15thC, so his family/followers were driven out by the MacLEANs.  They settled in Morven, Argyllshire, becoming a sept of the Clan MacINNES.

The name came to to be common in Dumfriesshire and Wigtownshire.

Ref:
Page 176 MacMASTER (and MASTERSON)
The Book of Ulster Surnames
Robert BELL
The Blackstaff Press 1988
ISBN 0-85640-405-5
ppb 285 pages

Hmm ... so looks like your folks weren't returning to their ancestral "homelands" when they moved to Stirlingshire ...

Capt. Jock
WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 July 15 17:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you Capt. Jock for all that information!  It certainly is something to mull over.

I will have to try to see the stud books for myself at some point and any Templepatrick original church records that exist at PRONI.

It definitely seems very likely that my MCMASTERS could have lived and worked at the paper mill in Dunadry village.  James worked as a calico printer/paper mill worker all his life according to Scottish census returns so it seems likely this was also his employment back in Ireland.  His probably father William was also listed as a calico printer on his death record so it seems it was a passed-down trade.

I have come across information before stating MCMASTER was an almost exclusively Ulster name.  Often on Scottish census returns if someone came from Ireland it simple says "Ireland" for their birthplace but on the 1851 census for my MCMASTERS it clearly states they were from "Antrim, Ireland".

Yes I wonder why they ended up in Stirlingshire - if other family had set up there before them or just perhaps because of paper mill work in the area.

Thanks again for all the help; much appreciated.

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 23 July 15 21:20 BST (UK) »
An alternative origin for your McMasters/Jamiesons.  Carmavey graveyard has many graves of people from the townlands on the south side of Templepatrick, including at least three McMaster and two Jamison headstones.

I’ll do my best at transcribing the McMaster headstones, but I’m only doing it from photographs.  I believe there is a book somewhere with transcriptions of the Carmavey headstones.

These three are all in a line on the west side.

Erected to the memory of
James McMaster
Se??ash [?]
Who died ...? [25th March 1857?]
?
Also of his wife
?
Who ? ? ?
? ?
? ?
Also his son
William John
? died 3rd [March?] 185?
Aged 43 years

Erected to the memory of
John McMaster
Late of Aughnamullan who departed
This life 29th Decr 1846 aged 79 years
Also to his son Samuel who died in infancy
Also his wife Elizabeth McMaster
Who died 3rd January ??
Aged 90 years

Erected by William McMaster
In loving memory of his wife Mary
Who died 6th July 189? Aged 52 years
Also his son John
Who died 6th June 1878
Also his son William John
Who died 27th ?? 1885
Also my father John McMaster
Of Augh?? [Aughnamullian?]
Who died 21st April 18?? [1899?] aged 85 years
Also above William John McMaster
Who died 18th Sept 1921 aged 78 years
Also his eldest daughter Elizabeth
Who died 22nd February 1957


If you’d like photos message me your email address and I’ll send them.

p.s. The Jamison headstones are very old.  One dates from 1753, the other 1771.

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 23 July 15 22:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information MF Gilbert - it's certainly plausible. I'll send you a PM  :)


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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 08 August 15 02:01 BST (UK) »
FTB,

I have some more trade for you:

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The Griffith's Valuation for Craigarogan shows a John WILLIAMSON jun. operating a Flax Mill (28C).
[Leasing his land from the PAKENHAM family, based at Langford Lodge.]

He sub-lets an adjacent premises (28D) to Matthew PULLAN.  [Hmm, a Welsh name ...]
In GV this is described as a "Yarn Bleaching Works".
However, the associated map has the legend "Cotton Printing Works" placed next to it.
[The GV maps were based on the Ordnance Survey maps dating from the time of the Tithe Applotment assessments in the 1830s.]

JW sublets house 28Ci to William McMASTER.

So Matthew and/or son could have learnt the skills of Calico printing at that mill.
["Calico printing" is an unsophisticated method of producing repeating simple patterns on cotton.]

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The linen trade took a plunge following the end of hostilities in Europe in 1815 at Waterloo.
[Ironically, the Peace was brokered by Lord Castlereagh of Mount Stewart, Co. Down.]

The markets for linen satchels, overcoats, tents, sails all took a nosedive.
Luckily, cotton goods then filled the gap.
[At least until 1864 when the embargoes imposed by the "Yankees" smothered the export trade from the Confederate States, with (secretly-British-sponsored) blockade runners trying to break through.]

Steam power automation came on the scene in the 1840s.
This allowed mills to be located on sites away from the sides of fast moving streams.

As the operators began to realise their worth, they became more organised politically.
Apparently, the cotton printers were particularly prone to such.
[I read of one workforce, on a major Belfast mill, rising up en masse and migrating to Manchester.
 And hence, no doubt, many a sad tail of woe ensued ... massive poverty & squalor.]

In 1798 the "Rising in the North", part of the Great Irish Rebellion, erupted out of "The Trench", immediately opposite the Mount Pakenham works in Mallusk.

Anyway, perhaps sometime ~1845 a change of ownership of those mills took place, perhaps accompanied by a clear out of workers - such causing folks to migrate to Scotland.

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James Graham ADAM owned the Bleach Fields and Print Works nearby to Kilsyth, buying up Denovan Mansion in 1843 and modifying it extensively.  He employed 1,000 workers.

The "Denny & Dunipace Heritage Society" have created a series of heritage walks through Denny village.  This includes fireplaces in Milton Row, remains of the houses that were built onto the wall
by the owner of the Calico Works which were sited on the other side of the wall.

Refs:

http://dennydunipaceheritage.org/images/stories/walks/trail4.pdf

http://www.archive.org/stream/landslairdsoflar00gibs/landslairdsoflar00gibs_djvu.txt

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WaHrCqQIjt8C&lpg=PA291&ots=u7OjZ5gFlL&dq=donipace%20printing&pg=PA291#v=onepage&q=donipace%20printing&f=false

I searched for mentions of "donipace" and "herbertshire" in the Belfast Newsletter - to no avail.

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I checked the records of 1st Donegore Pb, and found a number of McMASTERs.
All dated from the 1st half of the 19thC, with none afterwards.

Also note that the 1830s "Tithe Applotment" records for the Grange of Nilteen appear lost, but are actually marshalled under Donegore.

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Finally, things were truly abuzz in 1830.

BNL 11-JAN-1831 issue 9764
DOAGH REFORM MEETING
Chair: John WILLIAMSON
Secretary: James BLOW
Seconder: James JAMIESON

The resolutions on reform of representation in the British Parliament were carried unanimously.
However, they were obviously considered too contentious, with the local MPs refusing to submit them for consideration.  The attendees at the meeting then organised BROWNLOW at Armagh to represent their (radical?) interests.

The Tories were elected in 1828 (under The Duke of Wellington) but made a hash of it.
[The mob attacked his house, No.1 London, and smashed the windows, forcing metal shutters to be installed.  This is when the Duke got his epithet "Old Ironsides".]

The Liberals got back in to power in 1830, adopting Laissez-Faire policies in the markets.
[However, they took tax off beer for 50 years!]

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Sorry to hear that you have not had a response from Ron Coleman.
I had hoped to hear of your success, thus proving the definite inclusion of the records from Templepatrick within the stud books (as indicated within Isobel CROZIER's book).

Hope he is still with us ...

Capt. Jock
WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 August 15 17:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much Capt Jock - very interesting stuff!  Especially interesting about William McMaster subletting that house near/at the calico printworks c1830s.

Also interesting that the seconder on that resolution was James Jamieson.

I'd love to go on some of those Denny and Dunipace heritage walks  :)

Interesting that all McMasters seem to have left by the mid 19thc.  I will do some more digging to see what I can find out about other Irish-born McMasters living in Scotland after 1850.

Yes sad I still haven't heard from Ron but fingers crossed I will and you'll be the first to know!  Thanks for doing so much digging into this; much appreciated.

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 09 August 15 00:53 BST (UK) »
FTB,

Yes, I fancy taking some of those walks through Denny myself!

As far as I could find there was no second Reform Meeting at Doagh.
[Maybe most of their aspirations were met by the landslide Liberal (Whig) victory.]

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Just for the record  ;D in case they come of use to you later, here are the only McMASTER entries from the 1st Pb Donegore marriages celebrated in the 19thC:
[But be aware that there are gaps in the coverage during 1808-1811 (no Minister) and during 1813-1819 during the middle part of Henry COOKE's hectic reign - probably lost notebook.]


03-JUN-1811 Marriage [Image 289]
Groom: Arthur LEWIS, Loughermore
Bride: Jane McMASTER, Donegore

12-MAR-1829 Marriage  [Image 319]
Groom: John McMASTER, Loonburn
Bride: Agnes SMITH, Ballybracken
Witness: Samuel LAURIMER, Holestone
Witness: Robert BRISON, Ballyvoy

18-APR-1832 Marriage  [Image 330]
Groom: John McMASTER, Ballygown
Bride: Jane BIRNIE, Coggery
Witness: John CUMMING, Ballybracken
Witness: Thomas WHITE, Kilbride

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... and here are the JAMESON/JAMIESON/JAMIESON marriages in the 19thC:

19-FEB-1807 Marriage  [Image 285]
Groom: Robert JAMESON, Ballyhamage
Bride: Mary LOUGH, Ballyhamage

17-JUL-1811 Marriage  [Image 289]
Groom: John SERVICE, Ballyclover
Bride: Jenny JAMESON, Ballywye

07-OCT-1811 Marriage  [Image 290]
Groom: David JAMIESON, Ballywye
Bride: Nancy FERGUSON, Ballywye

10-OCT-1825 Marriage  [Image 308]
Groom: Robert JAMISON, Dunnymuggy
Bride: Ann Christian ROGERS, Doagh
Witness: Wiliam BAIRD, Newmill
Witness: John MURRAY, Doagh

10-AUG-1827 Marriage  [Image 313]
Groom: James STIRLING, Ballynoe
Bride: Ellen JAMISON, Ballysavage
Witness: John BLAIR, Parish of Connor
Witness: John MONTGOMERY, Browndod

05-JUN-1828 Marriage  [Image 316]
Groom: James STIRLING, Ballynoe
Bride: Eliza JAMISON, Browndod
Witness: Francis G. WARWICK, Browndod
Witness: Rev. Joseph McKEE, Killead

16-JUN-1832 Marriage  [Image 330]
Groom: Thomas BROWN, Portglenone
Bride: Eliza JAMISON, Ballyhammage
Witness: Thomas MARSHALL, Antrim
Witness: Robert CLARK, Ballyhammage

17-APR-1834 Marriage  [Image 336]
Groom: David JAMISON, Ballywee
Bride: Eliza HERBISON, Ballywee
Witness: Samuel  MOORE, Dunymuggy
Witness: Mary TODD, Grange

02-OCT-1834 Marriage  [Image 338]
Groom: David CRAWFORD, Killead
Bride: Susan JAMISON, Ballysavage
Witness: James STIRLING, Ballynoe
Witness: William BEATTIE, Ballysavage

27-MAY-1835 Marriage  [Image 340]
Groom: Samuel JAMISON, Ballywoodock
Bride: Nancy SIMM, Tardree
Witness: James STIRLING, Tobergill
Witness: William REA, Tardree

21-APR-1841 Marriage  [Image 360]
Groom: William THOMSON, Holestone
Bride: Mary JAMIESON, Ballyhamage
Witness: Jane JAMIESON
Witness: John YOUNG

15-NOV-1866 Marriage  [Image 493]
Groom: William STEPHENSON, Carrickfergus, Age=Full, Bachelor, Merchant
Father: Stratford STEPHENS, Merchant
Bride: Jane JAMISON, Ballyhamage, Age=19, Spinster
Father: Thomas JAMISON, Farmer
Witness: James STEELE
Witness: Mary JAMISON

26-NOV-1869 Marriage  [Image 502]
Groom: William R JAMIESON, Moyadam, Age=Full, Bachelor, Tailor
Father: Samuel JAMIESON, Labourer
Bride: Anna CRAWFORD, Ballybracken, Age=Full, Spinster
Father: John CRAWFORD, Farmer
Witness: Samuel SIMM
Witness: Grace CRAWFORD

05-MAY-1876  Marriage  [Image 519]
Groom: Robert STIRLING, Parkgate, Age=Full, Batchelor, Baker
Father: Archibald STIRLING, Farmer
Bride: Janet JAMISON, Grange, Age=Full, Spinster
Father: John JAMISON, Farmer
Witness: William STIRLING
Witness: Eliza JAMISON

02-JAN-1899 Marriage  [Image Book5-29]
Groom: Robert WILSON, Belfast, Age=Full, Bachelor, Clerk
Father: Thomas WILSON, Rate Collector
Bride: Lizzie JAMISON, Parkgate, Age=Full, Spinster
Father: William JAMISON, Merchant
Witness: John KENNEDY
Witness: Maud JAMISON

[Information courtesy of Melanie NEAL's mammoth effort in transcribing the records.  CD containing images and data available from the church direct.]

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Many folks came over from Ireland to the midland belt of Scotland around 1840. 
They helped to build the canals, then the railways and finally the bridges!
Many of their 2nd/3rd generation descendants are still there today.

One occasional contributor in this conference specialises in tracking them down, and has a vast database of connections.  I'll send you a PM with her contact details.

Capt. Jock

WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 15 August 15 10:08 BST (UK) »
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The Griffith's Valuation for Craigarogan shows a John WILLIAMSON jun. operating a Flax Mill (28C).
[Leasing his land from the PAKENHAM family, based at Langford Lodge.]

He sub-lets an adjacent premises (28D) to Matthew PULLAN.  [Hmm, a Welsh name ...]
In GV this is described as a "Yarn Bleaching Works".
However, the associated map has the legend "Cotton Printing Works" placed next to it.
[The GV maps were based on the Ordnance Survey maps dating from the time of the Tithe Applotment assessments in the 1830s.]

JW sublets house 28Ci to William McMASTER.

So Matthew and/or son could have learnt the skills of Calico printing at that mill.
["Calico printing" is an unsophisticated method of producing repeating simple patterns on cotton.]
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Oo, well done on spotting the out-of-place surname.  Matthew Pullan was the son of George Henry Pullan JP and Georgina Barron (a 2nd cousin 4 times removed of mine). 

I'm told George H Pullan was born in 1854 in Saddlesworth, Yorkshire - he died at Roughfort in 1888.  Two weeks before he died he'd been elected the vice-president of the East Antrim Constitutional Association at Ballyclare.

John Williamson's family was also connected to some of mine, so if someone wants to know more about his I might be able to provide some details.

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Re: MCMASTERS in Templepatrick, Antrim
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 07:04 BST (UK) »
I was in contact again with Ron Coleman in April this year in regards to the source for his Carnmoney tree in Ancestry. Ron did say that the McKinney Notebook was the source for the information on the Roughfort Barron family that MFGilbert has mentioned (re Pullan connection). The marriage of MFGilbert's 4 x gt grandmother Jane Barron of Roughfort to Ezekiel D Wiley of Ballycushan took place in the Templepatrick Presbyterian Church. We share the Wiley family ancestry.

Ron Coleman has a separate tree in Ancestry for the Templepatrick families as taken from the Lylehill Presbyterian Church. Below are Ron's comments on his sources.

I extracted the early Templepatrick, Donegore and Carmoney records many years ago and kept them separate. I made no attempt to reconcile the 3 records. I did not want to guess or calculate possible relationships. Donegore has 6 early Barrons; Templepatrick has about 60 and Carnmoney has about 25. I have found there are periods in the Presbyterian Church records when " the pulpit was vacant" and parishioners used a nearby congregation for baptisms or marriages. In the case of Donegore and Templepatrick they are less than a mile apart.   It makes it difficult to properly link every one.

Cheers

Linda