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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 June 15 23:44 BST (UK) »
In the 1890 E/R for Wallace his father's occupation was a farmer at Otautau, which is where George is, and same occupation. Mother shows in the 1896 E/R. :) Farmer at Otautau right up to his death.

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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 28 June 15 00:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks KHP so it looks like the same chap all the way through with Arthur added ::) ::)

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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 June 15 07:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: kiwihalfpint
In the 1890 E/R for Wallace his father's occupation was a farmer at Otautau, which is where George is, and same occupation.

The implication being... as you needed to be 21 years old or over an 1890 electoral roll entry means that that George was born pre-1869.

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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 28 June 15 07:08 BST (UK) »
Forgot about that, one of those Minties moments  ::).... back to drawing board.


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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 28 June 15 07:32 BST (UK) »
 ;) ;)

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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 28 June 15 08:01 BST (UK) »
Haven't had one for years ;D

I will attach Pennines other thread, as it does mention the Butler family in part and saves on duplication for anyone else coming on board.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=723619.20


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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 28 June 15 08:15 BST (UK) »
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Forgot about that, one of those Minties moments  ::).... back to drawing board.

Hi KHP... Not a Minties moment at all :-) The original post has him born in 1867, which would mean his first electoral roll listing was the 1890 listing you and Janette found. More a fudge moment by George than anything else I reckon.

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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 28 June 15 09:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone --- the Electoral Roll entry was a 'Sherlock Holmes' moment folks. Great thinking.

So the concensus of opinion is that he WAS the George Butler born in 1867 - and for some reason he later added 'Arthur' as a middle name (wonder why!).

In addition, when he married - he then understated his age by over 10 years and kept up this deception.

Presumably the person registering his death would go by what they THOUGHT was his birth date if they didn't need to produce actual evidence at that time.

(Incidentally George Arthur would also give his son the middle name of 'Arthur' in 1919.)

(Who was Arthur to be SO popular!)
Thank you again everyone -- you are all so very helpful.

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Re: George Arthur Butler Birth Date Anomoly
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 28 June 15 09:51 BST (UK) »
Birth:

BUTLER George
Date : 27 Nov 1867
Event : Birth
Place : Ryal Bush SLD NZ

The above certificate was donated to the New Zealand Society of Genealogists.    Either that someone was family of George, or they, purchased the wrong George Butler.

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