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Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« on: Sunday 09 August 15 10:32 BST (UK) »
I suspect this record relevant to my tree:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF2D-KYN

But the location of the marriage is given as Norwich, which is clearly not the (whole) truth.

I am assuming that this is a Bishop's Transcript (at Norwich cathedral) and the actual church or parish of the marriage was not transcribed.

The alternative is that the marriage took place in one of Norwich's (many) churches, but this seem less likely - adding the same church/parish to each record as your transcribe a register is realy rather easy.

Can anybody improve the location of the record finer than "Norwich" ?

My hope and expectation was Dickleburgh (where a William Smith, wife Harriet couple had just one child in 1811...), but I've checked the Dickleburgh register and it's not there.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12596-72415-56?cc=1416598&wc=92BK-K6R:29476701,29373001,29475501

That page goes from 23 Oct, William Cooper to Elizabeth Howlett, then 23 Nov, Theopholus Cooper to Harriet Algar.

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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 August 15 10:36 BST (UK) »
It appears that the whole of Batch Number I07773-1 is labelled as "Norwich Norfolk".

What IS an Indexing Project (Batch) Number in this context?

Tiny step forward - the Film code (1595864), which gives the same number of records decodes to:

Marriage licence bonds, 1557-1902
Author:   Church of England. Diocese of Norwich. Consistory Court; Norfolk and Norwich Record Office (Norwich, England)


https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/437050?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Marriage bonds 1809-1811 - Family History Library - British Film - 1595864

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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 August 15 10:41 BST (UK) »
The GS Film No: quoted 1595864 refers to Marriage Licences and Bonds 1557-1902 - Diocese of Norwich.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 August 15 13:00 BST (UK) »
Do a google search for William Smith merchant of Dickleburgh. There is an interesting article on the family who owned the Mill, listed under Norfolk Mills.
You can also purchase a copy of a disenfranchisement deed re William Smith and the land at Dickleburgh from Family Deeds 


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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 August 15 16:45 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast have browsable parish registers - assuming that the marriage took place very shortly after 9 November 1810,m they did not get married at:

All churches in Norwich:

St Andrew
St Augustine
St Benedict
St Clement and St Edmund
St Etheldreda
St George Colegate
St George Tombland and St Simon and St Jude
St Giles

I haven't looked at any other Norwich parishes, of which there appear to be a number.  :o
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 August 15 16:56 BST (UK) »
The Norfolk Marriage Index has the Marriage of William Smith and Harriet Cook in Oakley Suffolk 12 Nov 1810

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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 August 15 17:24 BST (UK) »
Ah, ha!  All is now clear  :o  "The county of Suffolk was wholly within the Diocese of Norwich until 1837."

FFHS publication - Bishops' Transcripts and Marriage Licences, Bonds and Allegations.

Added:  And just because I'm nosey  :o :-[  Dickleburgh and Oakley are about 5 miles apart!  8)  And that's travelling by today's roads, not a direct route across fields etc.

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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 August 15 11:15 BST (UK) »
The Norfolk Marriage Index has the Marriage of William Smith and Harriet Cook in Oakley Suffolk 12 Nov 1810

Yokel

... and no online source has that marriage. Thank you.

I am going to the NRO soon, for work on another tree, so I'll try to see the marriage bond while I'm there.

Thank you!

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Re: Decode/refine a LDS reference to Norwich?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 August 15 15:40 BST (UK) »
Adding in a Cook's of Oakley  cross link:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=689422.0

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