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Completed: Thomas Wall Marriage
« on: Thursday 20 August 15 22:20 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find a marriage between Thomas Wall and Mary Ann Collins.

Thomas was born in Tettenhall and Mary in Aston.

Thomas is living in Moseley Road,Aston in 1861 and I know they were married before 1871 because they are living in Trinity Street,Deritend,Aston with their three daughters.

Alan

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Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 August 15 22:42 BST (UK) »
Have you got her name from the birth certificate of one of the daughters?

Years of birth for Thomas and Mary?

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 August 15 22:45 BST (UK) »
Just for ref, in 1871 he is age 29 and she is 33
RG10   Piece 3134     Folio  98   Page 25

Second marriage for her?

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 August 15 22:51 BST (UK) »
Yes that's them.

The Maiden Name came from the daughters certificates.

Yes could have been married before.

Just a very long shot I did find Mary Collins mar. to William Austins Birm 1863.
Mary Austin to Thomas Wall 1865 Dudley.

Just a Guess.

Alan
Warwickshire-      Green, Mansell
Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth


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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 August 15 22:53 BST (UK) »
I must say I am doing this for a friend I am not related to these people.My friend thinks Mary's parents were John and Sarah with a sister Susannah.

Alan
Warwickshire-      Green, Mansell
Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 August 15 06:42 BST (UK) »
So does your friend think this is sister Susannah and parents in 1861?
District:  Aston            sub-registration district  Deritend
John Collins   46  All born Birmingham  living in Palmer Street 9 Court 4  bricklayer
Sarah Collins   41 
Susannah Collins   10     pearl button xxxxx
RG 9     Piece   2169      Folio  38     Page 17

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 August 15 06:52 BST (UK) »
Also this family in 1851
Ancestry has them as Collina, but Collins looks like, all born Birmingham, House 3 Court 1 Green Street (?)
John Collina   36  journeyman bricklayer
Sarah Collina   32
Mary Ann Collina   14  fancy hair platter ??
John Collina   12  button maker
Jane Collina   10
Susan Collina   2
HO107    Piece  2060     Folio  178           Page  22

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 August 15 08:42 BST (UK) »
Hi hope you got Alan email. We are all devastated about the mansell.  It cane to light when I got Sarah certificate. The two census are correct. Ive  been lead to them because Susan we know married a Ruben Dunn saw wedding certificate yesterday and in 1871 lived in Bradford street two doors away  from each other. Katg

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Re: Thomas Wall Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 August 15 17:15 BST (UK) »
Collins/Austins marriage:

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
William Austins of full age, Father:   John Austins,
married  2 Feb 1863 at  Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Spouse:   Mary Collins a minor  Spouse's Father:   Edward Collins
Reference Number:   DRO 34   Archive Roll:   M121

Both of Pinfold Street, he was  a cabinet locksmith and his Father was a labourer.

Her Father was a Cordwainer

Witnesses were Edward and Elizabeth Collins.