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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 August 15 16:26 BST (UK) »
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I would not put much credence the, date of birth, on death certificate, this information is only as good as the informant knowledge, my grandfather was out by 7 years.

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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 23:56 GMT (UK) »
I did purchase the death certificate for Charles E Machin in Quarter ending June 1930 at reg. district of Lambeth 1d page 235.
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Charles Ephraim Machin died on 31st March 1930 at 259 Clapham Road aged 65. He was formerly a textile warehouseman. The informant was G. M. Machin, widow who was present at the death.
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So G. M. Machin was Gertrude Mary née Whitmore who married Charles in 1909.
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I have the answer to my original post, but now I wonder:
When did Gertrude Mary Machin die? She was born in the March Q 1886 in Hartismere, Suffolk I believe.
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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 November 16 07:05 GMT (UK) »
Possible death Gertrude M Machin age 81     
March Qtr 1967 Samford (Suffolk)  Vol 4 b Page 1144

Looks like she was living with her daughter Olga in Lambeth in 1939

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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 November 16 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much Kay.
  The 1967 Samford record looks the most likely to me too.

  I have a death record for Olga in January 2002 in Stoke on Trent, Staffs. and it appears that she never married.

  I shall leave this up for two or three days for other input, then mark it as completed.
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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 November 16 15:48 GMT (UK) »
An earlier post lists a possible marriage of Olga in 1933 in Lambeth - to an Eric N Palmer -  and Olga is listed with the surname Palmer in 1939.

There is a death in  1980 of a Olga Mary A Palmer birth date  12 Mar 1910
Death Age 70 June Qtr 1980 - Gipping (Suffolk) Vol 10 Page 2265

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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 November 16 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kay. I am lucky that you're looking after me.  :)

I found a birth record for Eric Norman Palmer in Q June 1909 in Lambeth. He died on 2nd October 1946 age 37 (from the probate record).

The only child that looks likely to me is (*) born June 1946 in Lambeth.
There is a (*) born Q June 1944 in Chesterfield. Is she the daughter of Olga and Eric?
Richard

(*) Moderator comment: names of potentially living people removed in accorance with our 'no living people' policy.
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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 November 16 16:43 GMT (UK) »
The Lambeth birth looks more likely, but it is a long time after their marriage?? 

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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 03 November 16 16:57 GMT (UK) »
I think you have access to Ancestry?   If you search on Olga Mary Aileen Machin b 1910 Sussex there is a personal tree called Palmer Family Tree which may relate to her husband's surname Palmer.   If you contact the owner she may have more info on the couple

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Re: Charles Ephraim MACHIN - born Q June 1860 but when and where did he die?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 November 16 17:08 GMT (UK) »
OOOPS. Thanks for informing me about the "no living people." Can you tell I am distracted by a painting project at the moment?

I see the private tree. Thank you. I shall make contact with the owner and see what she is willing to share.
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Richard
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