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Offline mshergold

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Downton mystery....
« on: Tuesday 08 September 15 10:18 BST (UK) »
Although there is sufficient evidence of the following family for a brief period, some things remain a mystery....
Heres what I have>

Benjamin Shergold [sometimes spelt Shergell] married Elizabeth Munday [ sometimes spelt Mundy]
on the 16th of November 1828 at Downton. The couple had issue of Charles born 28th April 1832 and baptised on 10th May 1832 being about 2 weeks old ; George christened 3rd of March 1830 about 3 months old and James Thomas christened 3.7.1834. Depending on which sources one uses these children appear at St Edmunds Church St Wesleyan Salisbury or Salisbury Methodist.
The 1841 census shows the family as such>

Benjamin Shugarts   53 ag lab
Elizabeth Shugarts   46
Sarah Shugarts   16
William Shugarts   13
George Shugarts   11
Charles Shugarts   9
James Shugarts   7
jacob Down 80 pauper y

The census shows the family with Jacob Down being related in one form or another to Benjamin., and upon reading the image is actually Shergold.

From inspection the family escaped from the mass exodus to Canada aboard the King William but I am finding it difficult to see any of the family from 1841 onwards.
So if someone with some time would find the family in 1851 etc....... it would be appreciated.
I am also interested in any structuring that gives passage for the Mundy / Munday family as it seems there are a few Shergolds marrying into the surname.
Thank you

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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 11:05 BST (UK) »
There is a Charles Shergold born 1833 Downton lodging in Southampton in 1851.
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Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 11:13 BST (UK) »
Is this not one of the sons William Shergold b 1828 arg Lab age23 ( 1851 census )
Civil Parish East Martin Downton Wiltshire
Wife Jane age 22

Marriage for a William Shergold 16/6/1850 Downton Wiltshire to Jane Eldridge father Benjamin her father Davis Eldridge
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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 11:25 BST (UK) »
There is a Charles Shergold born 1833 Downton lodging in Southampton in 1851.
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Yes noticed this lodging with a Thomas Burnett and Elizabeth Burnett


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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 11:28 BST (UK) »
Presumably some of them still lived around Downton, Wilts.
Albert Shergold born there in 1893
William Shergold born there in 1894
Mary Jane Shergold born there in 1892
Alice Rose Shergold born there in 1875
Ellen Shergold born there in 1867
Ewart Shergold born there in 1899
Hilda Evelyn Shergold born in 1899
Frank Shergold born there in 1839
Katherine Shergold born there in 1855
Thirza Shergold born there in 1868
Lilian Shergold born there in 1897
Some of them also lived in Southhampton.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 11:49 BST (UK) »
Findmypast has a George Shergold age 22 born Downton on the 1851 census. Living in the household of his father in law Charles Fulford. He married Charlotte Fulford in 1850.
British newspaper Archive have a report of a young man called James Shergold being given 1 months hard labour in 1850 for stealing a sheep skin in Downton.
Isobel
Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 12:03 BST (UK) »
There is a James Thomas Shergold in the 1881 census living at Holly Cottages West Han Essex born 1835 Downton Wiltshire age 46 Q M Sergt RY Engineers MFW
Wife Harriet Shergold age 34
Son Hector H Shergold age 1

This marriage might be a possibility 1874 James Thomas Shergold to Harriet Comber
Lewes Sussex ?
A death for a James Thomas Shergold b 1835 died 1892 age 57
Wilton Wiltshire

Does this look like the same family

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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 12:07 BST (UK) »
Findmypast has a George Shergold age 22 born Downton on the 1851 census. Living in the household of his father in law Charles Fulford. He married Charlotte Fulford in 1850.
British newspaper Archive have a report of a young man called James Shergold being given 1 months hard labour in 1850 for stealing a sheep skin in Downton.
Isobel

The marriage for this couple list's George's father's name as George Shergold

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Re: Downton mystery....
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 12:10 BST (UK) »
I think we need to wait till Mshergold gets back to us to see if this is the right family