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Ann Street Greenock
« on: Tuesday 13 October 15 01:18 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have found a family member aged 16 who died at 2 Ann Street Greenock of Hydrocephalus in 1873.  I am wondering if this address has a history as a hospital/care facility as her family lived in Paisley.  She doesn't appear in the 1871 census so I haven't been able to check her occupation at that address
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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 04:32 BST (UK) »
Hello blacksmithy,
     Scottish Post Office Directory for 1872-73 shows Robert Rennie, carter, living at 2 Ann Street, Greenock.
     1871 Census. Same address. Surname transcribed as Ronnie. (A*try)
          Robert Ronnie  29  Carter  b  Ireland.
          Helen       "       26             b  Coylton, Ayrshire. (Maiden name might be Kennedy)
          William 5, Margaret 2 & Elizabeth 2months all b Greenock.
         
      1881 Census. Same address. (Transcription)
          Robt  Rennie  39  Milk Dealer  b  Ireland
          Hellem   "        37                   b  Ayr, Ayrshire.
          Margaret 12, Elizabeth 10, James 8, Robt 6, Jannet 4, all b Ayr?
          Hellen 4months b Greenock.

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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 05:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dod

It is good to know it is a house, not an infirmary.  I can only assume she arrived there sometime after the census but  before dying.  There appears to be no family connection so again will assume that maybe she was some sort of servant (having been a weaver!).
Guess there are just some things we never find out.
Cheers and thanks for your research
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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 15:17 BST (UK) »
Hello blacksmithy,
     I should have added that on the 1881 Census the Rennie Household included:
          James Wilson 15. Relationship: Servant. Occupation: Servant Boy. b Greenock.
     So, it is possible they had a female servant in 1873.
     Scottish Death Certificates usually include occupation (if any).

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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Blacksmithy and Dod  :)

The 1871 census shows at least 3 households at that address so hard to say how your girl connects really. What was her surname? She may simply have been boarding or lodging there at the time of her death. You mentioned an occupation of a weaver for her?

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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 October 15 05:09 BST (UK) »
Hi
Her name was Janet Welsh daughter of Mary MS Miller and James Welsh (weaver)  Her dad signed the register and was living at 5 Duke St Paisley but was present at her death.  Her mum died many years earlier and she had a step mum Jean/Jane MS Shaw.  Janet was born in Kilbarchan 1856. 
oops I have just re-read it should have been 72 Ann St, not 2.  Sorry for the wrong info - a fresh set of eyes this afternoon  :(
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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 October 15 12:01 BST (UK) »
72 Ann St had, just as Monica says regarding 2 Ann St, a number of households living there. I don't have access to SP, but my database of sugarbakers shows 3 sugar workers there in 1871, 7 in 1881 and 7 in 1901, some are clearly from different families, some maybe lodgers. None of the names carry through to the next census. It suggests short lets in a crowded building.
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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 October 15 20:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Blacksmithy. I was actually born in 60 Ann Street, in 1942, so 72 would have been five closes up from there. You have to remember that these properties were tenements, where several landings had at least three homes (flats). so there would be about nine or so homes in each tenement all consisting of two rooms, maybe three. So not much room for lodgers, by the time you had two parents and several children!

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Re: Ann Street Greenock
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 October 15 21:00 BST (UK) »
Useful info for my work too. Thank you Susan.
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