Susannah Elizabeth Williams 1911

[RayDen]

I am looking for a Susannah Elizabeth Williams and her family in 1911.  Now I know that I can't get a look up on 1911 census, that is not what I looking for (I have worldwide A..ty). It is just that I cannot find the family in 1911  (or anywhere else) and I would be grateful if I could get some other eye's on them.

In 1901 the family are living in Charlton Street, Llandudno and the family are:

   
Name                                 Age   Born              Occupation
Wm Ed Williams                           40     Liverpool        Plasterer
Sus Elizth Williams (nee Thomas)   42     Carnarvon
John Thos Williams                   17     Llandudno      Plasterer
M E Williams                          16     Llandudno      Plumbers Apprentice
David H Williams                  14     Llandudno
Madge M Williams                   9       Llandudno
Catherine Williams                   4       Llandudno
Susan Thomas                          66      Carnarvon       Aunt

In 1911 John Thomas Williams is living in Blackwood, Monmouthshire and is married to a Mary Elizabeth (Brimble) and they have 2 children.  John Thomas's father William is also in South Wales a few miles down the valley from Blackwood, boarding at 3 High Street, Ynysddu, Monmouthshire.

However I cannot find the rest of the family in North Wales.

I am doing research for a friend and his grandfather is the above John Thomas Williams.  John Thomas vanishes from the family around 1913/14 and is believed to have gone to America.  I have been unable to find him and I was hoping to locate his siblings to see if I could find a trace from that side of the family.

Any help appreciated.

Ray

[despair]

You might have partial success if his immediately younger brother had exactly the same name as their father.

Regards
Roger

[suzard]

as Roger has hinted - it seems M.E. Williams age 18 in 1901 census should be W.E.

this looks like the family in 1891 (and Susan Elizabeth is using her middle name

1891
Charlton St llandudno
William E Williams head M 30 Plasterer Liverpool Lancs
Elizabeth wife 32 eglwys Rhos Caernarvon
John Thomas son 7
William E son 6
David H son 4
Kate Roberts 22 general servant Denbigh
children all b Eglwys Rhos
4674 18 29

Suz

[RayDen]

I knew that Rootschat would come up trumps!  Thank you Roger you hit the nail on the head!  I had the earlier census Suz and I did search for the son as William but obviously not as detailed a search as I should have done.

Found William Edward with a wife and 2 children living Bodlondelb Mostyn Avenue Llandudno.  The link was that he was/is a plumber (apprentice in 1901).  And living with him is his mother - Lizzie Williams, sister Madge Williams and another sister Lily Williams who is I think Catherine.  It looks like son David had died between 1901 & 1911

Thanks both, hopefully I will be able to push on a little more with this now.

Regards

Ray

[despair]

There is a David Howell Williams born 1887,(Creuddyn sub registration district) who dies in the Cottage Hospital,Llandudno in 1907 aged 20.

Regards
Roger

[RayDen]

I did find that Roger, but thanks anyway.

Ray