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I have good census data for 1851, 1861, 1871.

This shows a couple, John Robinson, b1823, Wetheringsett, Thatcher, and Sarah Ann Robinson, b1825, Wetheringsett. Their only child in the 1851 Census is "Azubah Ann Robinson", b1849.

I would very much like any information about the marriage, which is most likely:

John Robinson (a Thatcher) to Sarah Ann XXXX, in Wetheringsett cum Brockford, around or before 1848.

In addition, any information about baptism would be great; the children who census shows as being from Wetheringsett are:

Azubah Ann - 1849
Gad (later George) - 1851
Caleb - 1853

EDIT; I should say - I cannot find this in FreeBMD.

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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 October 15 11:02 GMT (UK) »
purchase of one of the children's birth certs should give maiden name of Sarah Ann

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Gad Robinson Jun qtr 1851 Hartismere 13 506
Caleb Robinson Dec qtr 1853 Hartismere 4a 403

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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 October 15 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Azubah may be;
Zubah Ann EVES, Reg Dec 1848, Hartismere, 13 411
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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 October 15 11:46 GMT (UK) »
AZABAH ANN Eves Christened 26 July 1851 Wetheringsett, Suffolk
Parents JOHN Eves and SARAH ANN
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Marriage Reg on F/S for William SPURDENS 1874 1874, Guiltcross, Norfolk to Azubah Anne ROBINSON

Cant get onto FreeBMD to establish Marriage c 1851 and Burial of a John Eves c 1851
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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 October 15 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Marriage 1847 Hartismere, John EVES, Sarah Ann CHAPMAN on same page

1851 Census living next door to John/Sarah Ann Robinson are;
William CHAPMAN, 65 (1786)
Cherry Chapman 64 (1787)
Both born    Wetheringsett
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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 October 15 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Anne CHAPMAN Christened 22 May 1825 Wetheringsett,
Parents WILLIAM/CHERUBIN
Birth 4 Nov 1824

Sarahs Sibling GEORGE Christened 26 May 1822 has Mothers name as Cherubin THURLOW, Father William Chapman
Earliest Child I can find for them on Familysearch is JAMES 1813

1841 we have;
William Chapman, 55
Cherry Chapman, 55
Sarah Ann Chapman, 17

Anyhow Gad or Calebs Birth Cert will confirm my scenario (unless of course John/Sarah ran off together and John Eves was still alive!)
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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 October 15 12:23 GMT (UK) »
I'd come at this a different way, and come to the same place;

I'd spotted (in 1851) that John Robinson and Sarah Ann were living next to a William and Cherry Chapman, and that both John and William shared the trade of thatching.

Tracking back, in 1841, William and Cherry have a daughter, Sarah Ann.

So it looked (from census data) as if the Sarah Ann Robinson of 1851 was the Sarah Ann Chapman of 1841.

I too then found a FreeBMD marriage to ... the wrong man, not a Robinson, but an Eves.

I hadn't found Azubah's birth though.

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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 October 15 12:41 GMT (UK) »
from FS

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N158-6DW

Gad Eves, son of Sarah Ann/ John Eves
Christening Date    20 Jul 1851

Which implies that John Robinson may still be either on his own or with his family in the 1851 census.

But from FreeBMD:
Births Jun 1851
Robinson    Gad        Hartismere    13   506

Registered one way, baptised, another!

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Re: John Robinson - marriage to Sarah Ann in Wethingsett Cum Brockford, circa 1848?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 October 15 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Great minds think alike :)
There is a John Eves Baptised 23 Jan 1823 Wetheringsett Cam Brockford, Suffolk
Mother ELIZABETH Eves

Also a 40yr old John Eves, Mar, Carpenter, born 1811 Suffolk 1851 Census
He is living in Chelsea, Middlesex

Your reply just came up Gads Baptism is interesting

Ok so are John Eves/John Robinson the same person?

Did Elizabeth Eves marry a Robinson I wonder?
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