Author Topic: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge  (Read 932 times)

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Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« on: Wednesday 11 November 15 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Have traced the Elsworth family as far Gulielmus, the father of Petri but the trail has gone cold. Could Gulielmus be a foreign migrant making a new life in England. I have no details of Gulielmus at all and no maiden name for the wife of Petri. Could anybody point me in the right direction. Thankyou.

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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 November 15 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Not really helping here, but I have a query: are your Elsworths all in West Yorks? Or do you have North Yorks links?
I have Elsworths in West Heslerton in the mid-1800s.

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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 November 15 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello MT, Grandma and gt granddad Elsworth were from Bradford, gtgt granddad was from Bingley, gtgtgt, gtgtgtgt and gtgtgtgtgt granddad were from Fewston, his dad Petri was from Pateley Bridge. There are a few different Elsworth's families from the Bradford area and actually extensively researched one of them by mistake from the Cleckheaton area, about 150 individuals including photo's.

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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 November 15 12:09 GMT (UK) »
OK, Gerry.
They don't sound like mine although they probably will be, back in the dim and distant.
Good luck with your search.

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SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
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SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 November 15 12:33 GMT (UK) »
With a surname like Elsworth I would not expect him to be a foreign migrant AND Gulielmus is the Latin form of William, so is it possible that the entries in the parish records were in Latin?  :-\  Or even that the family were Roman Catholics?



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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 November 15 12:47 GMT (UK) »
With a surname like Elsworth I would not expect him to be a foreign migrant AND Gulielmus is the Latin form of William, so is it possible that the entries in the parish records were in Latin?  :-\  Or even that the family were Roman Catholics?

This is the record for 'Petri' https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9SC-TXN

The film number is 98551 which gives this result https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A98551

I'd agree with BumbleB that the most likely reason for those two names is simply that they have been 'Latinized' and are actually Peter and William.
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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 November 15 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Not quite sure why Family Search have the Latin versions of the names  :o  The image for the Bishop's Transcripts for Pateley Bridge are all in English:

5 December 1713 - Wm ye son of Peter Elsworth - bapt.

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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 November 15 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks BumbleB & JenB, that would make sense regarding being recorded in Latin. Peter's (Petri) father, brother and son were all called/recorded as Gulielmus, the records you found for 1713 were for Peter's son not his father but I'll have another look for him as William c.1645/1680

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Re: Petri Elsworth 1677 Pateley Bridge
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 November 15 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Nope, I think that's as far as I can get