searching for Mary Ann Bartrum & Benjamin Bartram Northumberland

[MONGERSMOM]

looking for birth record for Mary Ann Bartrum born in JULY 1839 allegedly in Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England. Not positive on her mums name.

Her father is listed on her marriage license as Benjamin Bartram 12 Oct 1805 Presbyterian,Warenford, father James Bartram can anyone guide me as to where I can possibly find these please?

[c-side]

Welcome to rootschat 

There is a Mary Bartrem birth registration in quarter ended September 1839 in Berwick registration district - this includes Tweedmouth.

Details from freebmd   http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Unfortunately to get any further details you would have to buy a copy of the birth certificate.  This can be obtained from GRO for £9.50.

It might be possible to find her baptism record but not all Presbyterian records are available.

Christine

[Rosinish]

Her father is listed on her marriage license as Benjamin Bartram 12 Oct 1805 Presbyterian,Warenford, father James Bartram can anyone guide me as to where I can possibly find these please?

A wee bit confusing........

Mary Ann's father Benjamin
Who was her husband.......was he James or was his father James?

Annie

[MONGERSMOM]

thanks! Mary Ann was married to John Sheel

[MONGERSMOM]

sorry i didn't  read your message correctly, Mary Ann's father was Benjamin and his father was James Bartram.  I ordered the birth certificate that was found above, hoping that gives me the correct info on her mother. 

If you have any clues as to how I would go about finding her fathers birth record from 1805, I would be extremely grateful.  Thanks so much!! I feel like throwing some people off my tree at times

[trish1120]

1841 the Family is in Durham.

1841 Census
Norham, Durham
HO107/319/8/Norham
Benjamin Bartrion, 30, Ag Lab
Mary Bartrion, 30
Dorothy Bartrion, 12
James Bartrion, 9
Isabella Bartrion, 5
MARY Bartrion, 2
Benjamin/Mary and Isabella are down as not born in County

1851 Dorothy born c 1829 Norham, is a Servant in Alnwick

1853 she Marries James Cairns


1861 Census
James Cairns, 31
Dorothy Cairns, 32, Wife, born Norham
Benjamin Cairns, 5
Mary Jane Cairns, 2
Elizabeth Cairns, 10mths

Sorry if you have this Mongersmom

[MONGERSMOM]

No I didnt have that info, thanks so much Trish

[Rosinish]

This may be of help?........

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/county/northumberland/

Annie

[c-side]

Just to confuse things I need to mention that Norham is actually in north Northumberland.

Until 1844/45 (I forget which) there were three enclaves in the county which belonged to Durham - Norhamshire, Islandshire (around Holy Island) and Bedlingtonshire (in the south east of the county).

So although the census says they were living in Durham they weren't 

Fortunately all changed before the 1851 census.

Christine