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Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« on: Monday 14 December 15 22:36 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help with this one?   I have a George Frederick DAKIN who (from 1861/71/81/91 censuses) reckons he was born in Sileby in about 1828.   I can't find a baptism for him, nor can I track him down on the 1841 or 1851 census.   Someone has suggested that he was the son of Simon Dakin and Eliza Julia Broughton, who married in Sileby in 1825.  I've found Eliza in 1851 living in Wilton St Leicester with 5 children (born after 1837), but no husband (Simon) present.   I'm going round in circles with this one.  Does anyone have any bright ideas?
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RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Possibly he used his middle name in 1841/51

1851
Turnpike Rd Cradley Worcs
Thomas M Clewes Head M 77 Master shoe maker Hartlbury Worcs
Sarah Clewes wife 72 Worcs
FREDERICK DAKIN lodger U 23 Clerk to new British Iron Company Sileby Leics
HO107 2034 6 5

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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:14 GMT (UK) »
1841 he seems to be with a Broughton family

1841 Sileby Leics
Thomas Broughton 65 FWK
Mary 65
John Buxton 40
FREDK DAKIN 14
William Broughton 40
Mary 30
Diana 14
Sarah 12
Ann 10
Jennett 8
all b in county
HO107 593 16 28 9

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Oh Suz - thank you so much!!   I was just this minute looking at this Simon Dakin & his wife Eliza Julia (Broughton) who someone suggested might be George's father - and this same Thomas and Mary Broughton are her parents - thus George Frederick Dakin's maternal grandparents!      Many, many thanks for digging these two out!  I'd just ground to a halt with it!! Sincerely appreciate your help  :)
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON


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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:29 GMT (UK) »
this looks like Simon & Eliza in 1841 -although Simon could be Sam??

1841
John St St Peters Derby
Sam/Simon? Dakin 30 Silk Weaver no
Eliza 30 no
Dinah 12 no
Eliza 5 no
Sam/Tom/Simon? 3 No
Broughton 5 months yes
Sabrina 5 months yes

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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:35 GMT (UK) »
OOo, yes, could well be - there's certainly a son Broughton appearing on the 1851 in Leicester :-
1851 Census
17 Wilton Street, St Margaret Leicester
Eliza Dakin head 45 1806 Sileby
Julia Dakin dau 14 1837 servant Leicester
Broughton Dakin son 10 1841 scholar Derby Peters
Oliver Dakin son 8 1843 Derby Peters
Auther Dakin son 6 1845Derby Peters
Thomas Dakin son 1 1850 Derby Peters

Oh I so wish they'd had the forethought to add POBs on the 1841!  Still no clear origin for Simon Dakin (well except for not in Derbyshire!) ;)

RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:46 GMT (UK) »
there is this baptism
St Mary Sileby Leics
Daniel Dakin
7 Jun 1825
parents SAMUEL & Eliza Julia

wonder if Simon was Samuel and mistranscribed somewhere along the line???

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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 December 15 23:58 GMT (UK) »
I guess that's possible (also the seemingly confusing entry in the 1841?), though the marriage in 1825 to Eliza Julia Broughton has him as Simon.
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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Re: Simon & Eliza Julia (Broughton) DAKIN - Sileby - look up please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 00:08 GMT (UK) »
I think he was at least known as Samuel
1851 Samuel Dakin is a lodger in Cambridgshire -he is married and occ Cricketer
1861 he is in Cambridgeshire -with wife Eliza J and 3 of their children - Broughton is one of them  Samuel's occupation is Manufacturer of leg guards -and Broughton is a cricketer
1871 Samuel and Eliza are in Cambridge and Samuel's occ is Cricket pad maker

Do you require full details of census??

Also have you seen the image for Eliza Julia's marriage to Mr Dakin ??

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk