Looking for 'Mary White' help please...

[Jayhen6]

Hi there,
I've been researching the White family of Leicestershire in particular a Mary White (born circa 1857) who married 'Edward Charles' a farmer from Market Harborough. (Fell to his death in his barn age 58)

On the 1901 Census Mary and Edward are recorded with their family including their eldest daughter 'Gertrude' age 22yrs.

Looking at earlier census records to find 'Mary' In the 1881 census I came across her daughter 'Gertrude' (2yrs) in the home of 'Elizabeth White' and her family whereby 'Gertrude' is shown as her 'granddaughter'

This led me to believe that 'Elizabeth' was 'Mary's mother yet I can't find Mary and her mother together in any census records.

On the 1861 Census 'Elizabeth' (31) and her husband Joseph (20) are shown together as lodgers yet there is no trace of 'Mary' who would have been 3 or 4 yrs of age.

Could it be that 'Mary' was illegitimate and was elsewhere or that her daughter 'Gertrude' wasn't the granddaughter of Elizabeth on the 1881 census?

Hope the above isn't too confusing... Any suggestions or assistance appreciated..

Regards
John

[clairec666]

Can you clarify, is Mary's maiden name White or is his her married name?

[Jayhen6]

Hi there,

Her maiden name was 'White' she married Edward Charles.

Regards

John

[sgf28]

I can't find a marriage between Edward Charles and Mary White, do you have any details of the marriage?

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Yes you're right Mary is illegitimate and living with Granny in 1861 census
Stoke Albany 1861
Martha Sumpter widow 56 Denby Northants
Ann 35 daughter Stoke Albany
Martha 16
Sarah A 16
Jane 8
Mary 4 granddaughter.

1851 Stoke Albany
Martha Sumpter 46 widow
Betsey 21 daughter Stoke Albany
Libbins 17 son
Samuel 14
Sarah 4
Martha 6

Elizabeth Sumpter married Joseph white at Market Harborough Dec 1860.7a 67
Daughter Mary marries as Sumpter Leicester June 1880 to Edward Charles.7a 343

That's where the confusion starts.
Mary Sumpter was born Mar 1857 Market Harbrough 7a 17

She was baptised at Stoke Albany 23.10.1859 at the same time as her Cousin Anne d of Libbens and Eliza Sumpter labourer

Ciderdrinker

[Jayhen6]

Hi again,

Great work there ciderdrinker, jigsaw coming together now!.. and no I haven't found a marriage for Mary and Edward Charles..

Thanks again

John

[willsy]

Little bit more detail

Mkt Harborough   Weston by Welland 26-Nov 1860   
SUMPTER   Elizabeth   
WHITE   Joseph


1880   30-Jun   St Saviour
SUMPTER    Mary         
CHARLES    Edward

[Jayhen6]

Great stuff, looks like Mary assumed her grandmothers name when married...

Thanks so much

John

[willsy]

Got to admit, have not looked at the census returns but checked baptisms at St Saviour

EDWARD & MARY CHARLES

ALBERT EDWARD   1882      28-May
ETHEL ADA    1889    21-Jul
FLORENCE EMILY   1884      02-Nov
GEORGE HARRY   1882    28-May
GERTRUDE LOUISA   1882      28-May
GLADYS MAY   1896    02-Aug
LEONARD   1883   06-Jul
LILIAN MAUD   1885   04-Oct
MARY EVELINE   1894   15-Feb
WALTER   1887      20-Dec