Robert Naylor Clark and Elizabeth Gilmour Brown Robertson

[Forfarian]

Don't know how accurate this info. is it's from a public tree on Ancestry
says she remarried in 1981 Chesterfield Derbyshire

Elizabeth G D  Robertson born 5/11/1923
Parents
Alexander Robertson 1868
Annie Brown 1872 -  29 Nov 1973 Killearn Stirlingshire

Which, if true, would mean that her mother was aged 51 when she was born. Fathers aged 55 and more are not unusual, but 51-year-old new mothers should always ring alarm bells.

Siblings
Alexander 1897 Glasgow – 18/9/1953 Killearn
John 1898
Andrew 1900

Those birth dates look fine for a mother born in 1872.

This is the 1901 census mentioned

Alexander Robertson abt 1868 Stirling, stirlingshire
Annie Robertson abt. 1872 Bothe Keamer

That will be a mistranscription of Bothkennar.

Occupation:   Railway Synelman

Signalman?

[ecksdochter]

Hello rachelralph,
     Thanks to Robert's unusual middle name there is no doubt about the marriage 'josey' etc. posted. Use Robert's full name to search:
     Robert Naylor Clark & Elizabeth G Robertson, 1943, Stranraer, Wigtownshire. (1 match)
     ScotlandsPeople is the official government website for Births, Marriages & Deaths in Scotland.
     Using credits, Certificates can beviewed on-line, EXCEPT, for privacy reasons, Births less than 100yrs, Marriages less than 75yrs & Deaths less than 50yrs ago, but these can be ordered through ScotlandsPeople.
                    www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
     Scottish Marriage Certificates from 1855 onwards (start of official registration) carry a lot of information & should give both bride & grooms parent's names, including mother's maiden names.
     Good luck with your search.
               Regards,     Dod.
     
     

[rachelralph]

thank you ever so much you lovely people. i must confess when i saw scotlandspeople and saw i needed to register i did have a moment where i threw my toys out of the pram and threw a tantrum at the idea of yet another site i had to pay for. prehaps with hindsight i should have read through it first.
now i am looking at this branch of the tree i do recall some conversations with my grandmother some years ago and i did fill in some blanks on the ancestry tree. however none of them have been researched and i am now having to go through the things i added and carefully work out what is fact and what is not.
that marriage is wonderful thank you Dod, i shall wait until payday and purchase some credits and the relevant certificates and go from there.
xxx

[josey]

yet another site i had to pay for

Sadly the way of any hobby 

I wonder if you changed the title of the post to 'Robert Naylor Clark & Elizabeth G D Robertson 1940s' you may attract the attention other members who have a connection or information? They can pm you if the information is about living people.

Josey

[rachelralph]

indeed Josey. my husband often ask why i couldnt take up knitting as a hobby as you can find wool in many charity shops, whereas he is yet to find a charity sop selling subcriptions 

good idea about the title change.

[Forfarian]

my husband often ask why i couldnt take up knitting as a hobby as you can find wool in many charity shops 

Just point out to him that you would soon end up with piles of woolly garments, which take up so much more space than a few electrons in a computer

[josey]

  - I knit profusely - mostly to give away - AND do family history. Each to their own combination of interests 

[rachelralph]

i most definately would not have piles of wooly garments! i would instead have piles of knots and scruffy things that should resemble something warm and knitted. i am hopeless at knitting.

just had a quick free look for my robert naylor clark on scotlands people and i cant seem to find him with his middle name which would have been most helpful. i wonder if Naylor was his mothers maiden name? my grandmother uses robertson clark, robertson as her middle name although she claims this is because of the robertson clan name thing? i dont know?

roll on payday when i can purchase some credits and get this going properly

ADDED- a little digging around has led me to find that Gilmour Brown are the middle initails of Elizabeth. so now im looking for Robertson, Gilmour, Brown and Clarks (and possibly Naylor if my hunch is right) you'd think with all these names i would be able to find someone else researching them but i cant!

[Ladyhawk]

my grandmother was born 1943 in Stirlingshire to
Robert Naylor Clark and Elizabeth G D Robertson

i have the birth of
Robert Naylor Clark 1923 in Stirlingshire
and i have his death in
1998 Mansfield Nottinghamshire.

i have
Elizabeth G D Robertson born 1923, but Scotland
and i have her death
approx 1996 in Mansfield Nottinghamshire.

they divorced and remarried other people.

You mentioned you have now discovered that Elizabeth's middle names were Gilmour Brown

Not sure if you have these details posting just in case.....

Elizabeth Gilmour B Nettleship age 73
Birth Date:   5 Nov 1923
Date of Registration: Apr 1997 Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Register Number:   A20D District and Subdistrict:   6871A Entry Number:   261

Elizabeth G D Clark Spouse Nettleship
Mar 1981 Chesterfield Derbyshire Volume 6 Page 0335

Did Robert N also remarry in Chesterfield 1984? There is a death reg. Mansfield in 1998
but no middle initial/name born 17 Oct 1923

I was thinking along the same lines as you and wondered if his mmn was Naylor

Hopefully when you are able to look at their 1943 marriage cert. if will give you some answers.

Please let us know how you get on