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Offline Jessica Slater

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David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« on: Tuesday 08 March 16 16:37 GMT (UK) »
I am researching my 2nd great grandparents.

I don't really have that much information on them.
Their names are:
David Alfred Jones - BIRTH 26 JAN 1879
Gertrude Morris - BIRTH 1 MAY 1891

Their children -
Edna Gertrude Jones - BIRTH 12 FEB 1920 • Wem, Shropshire
DEATH 22 OCT 1987 • Wrekin, Shropshire (my ggrandmother)

Eric Jones - BIRTH 2 JULY 1922 • Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
DEATH MAR 2000 • North Shropshire, Shropshire

Violet M Jones - BIRTH 1928 • Oswestry, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom

Leslie Jones & Percy Jones

I have seen the 1939 census, which says the birthdates and info above. Gertrude is occupations -  charing. And David Alfred is a Farm Labourer.

I think they were both born in Montgomeryshire, as I can only find a marriage that matches information in 1911.

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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 17:46 GMT (UK) »
From freebmd

Marriages December qtr 1911     
David A Jones/Gertrude Morris   Llanfyllin    11b   363

Births March qtr 1879
David Alfred Jones  West Derby    8b   454    (this is Liverpool)

Too many Gertrude Morris births to determine the right entry but given the marriage location - this could be her

Births June qtr 1891   
Gertrude Morris     Llanfyllin    11b   213

Have you checked the 1901 and 1911 censuses for her?

You should be able to find David on the 1881 census
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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 18:00 GMT (UK) »
I can't find a baptism for him and there is no obvious 1881 entry (ie) one which shows his full middle name

There is an 1881 entry for a David A Jones aged 2 - parents Evan & Margaret - living in Kirkdale so you can use the link above to trace the entry

Evan Jones b 1844 Aberanon, Glamorgan, Wales
Margaret b 1845 Carmarthenshire, Wales
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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 19:28 GMT (UK) »
1881 census
Middle House same house in 1911
Guilsfield
Montgomery

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXK-LY1H

All born Montgomery

David Alfred Jones age 2

Parents Morris b 1847, Elizabeth b 1858 and sibling.

I agree with the marriage and birth record for Gertrude.  David birth reg is one of two in the first q of 1879 Llanfyllin reg district

Parents marriage on familysearch, also bapt for Morris, Findmypast

Hope this helps

Cas
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 19:36 GMT (UK) »
1901 census shown as Gettie Morris - image is Gertie - Guilsfield Mongomeryshire - all born there except John


John Morris   46 agric labourer b Llanfair Montgomeryshire - shown as married but no wife shown.  All other entries are shown as his sons or daughters
Margret    21
Edward  14
James  12
Gertie 10
Ellen 8
Sarah  6
Jane  2
Joseph  11 Months
RG13 Piece 5204 Folio 171 Page 18
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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 19:38 GMT (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9B5-KVH

1901 census, seems her mother, Sarah, possibly died after youngest child?  She is on the 1891

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 March 16 19:45 GMT (UK) »
1891 for Guilsfield - all children shown as b Meifod except James

John Morris 38 b Llanfair
Sarah E  35  b Meifod
Sarah E 12
Margaret    10
David 8
Alice    6
Edward  3
James  1 b Guilsfield
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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all
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Re: David Alfred Jones & Gertrude Morris.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 March 16 16:18 GMT (UK) »
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David birth reg is one of two in the first q of 1879 Llanfyllin reg district

I agree that the 1881 entry for Montgomery makes more sense than the Liverpool one but neither of those birth registrations have a middle name or initial
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