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YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« on: Friday 11 March 16 19:52 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=735664.0

Still not solved the subject title. But I feel the Yale family should be on the Denbighshire page.

I will post later on my link of the Yale family of Denbighshire to Shropshire. Cheswardine and High Ercall both of Shropshire.

Sorry for the duplication. The above link shows information and evidence on Lowrie Yale and the family.
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Almeley Prichard
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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 March 16 20:01 GMT (UK) »
https://archive.org/stream/yalegenealogyhis00yale/yalegenealogyhis00yale_djvu.txt

The Yales, although natives of Wales, were of Italian and Norman,
as well as British blood. There seems however to be no evidence of Sax-
on stock in the ancestr3\

The first ancestor recorded in the pedigree, in the direct male line^
is Dominus Otho, a nobleman from Florence Italy (a Florentine); but he
was not the only ancestor of Italian blood, as Cuneda, the head of the
long- line of British king-s and princes, from whom the Yales are de-
scended on the maternal side of the house, was no doubt partl}'^ of Rom-
an parentage.

The predominant strain in this ancient ancestry was however un-
doubtedly British (Brythonic), as the maternal ancestors were nearly
all , if not all, Welsh (British), except Alice de Montgomery, through
whom came the connection with the Normans.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 March 16 13:10 GMT (UK) »
http://www.stoswaldsoswestry.org.uk/church-history/architecture-features/the-yale-memorial/

The Yale Memorial

At the end of the north wall is a monument which commemorates the Yale family, who are remembered for founding a university in America. A clue to its age lies in the style of dress of the two figures - which is late 16th Century. Ostensibly, the wording of the memorial plaque reads;

"Underneath are interred the remains of Margaret the wife of David Yale Esq., daughter and Heiress of Edward Maurice of Cae Mor, Gent. She departed this life the 20th day of December 1754, aged 66. Also lie the remains of David Yale Esq., who dyed Jan. 29th 1763, aged 81."

Closer inspection reveals an inscription (almost all of which has disappeared) on the canopy which is the original memorial and reads:

"In memory of Mr Hugh Yale alderman of this town and Dorothy his wife, daughter of Roger Roden Esq., of Burton in the county of Denbigh whose bodies are interred in ye chancel of theis Church commonly called St Mary's before its demolition in the late wars, anno 1616. They gave to ye poor of this town the yearly interest and benefice of one hundred pounds to continue for ever, besides other good acts of charity."

It is likely the word chancel was interposed for chapel: the old, pre-Civil Warchurch included a chapel dedicated to St Mary, which was situated between the Tower and the old South Transept.
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Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
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Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 March 16 13:13 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hbv/

Parliamentary Papers, House of Commons and Command, Volume 11
By Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons

Page 429   YALE'S CHARITY.

Hugh Yale, by his Will, bearing date 2d January 1605...
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Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock


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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 March 16 13:21 GMT (UK) »
https://archive.org/stream/yalegenealogyhis00yale/yalegenealogyhis00yale_djvu.txt

On August 3, 1601, Dr. David Yale conveyed the estate of Erddig
House to trustees: first, to the use of himself and of his wife, Frances,
for the term of their natural lives, and after their death, to the use of
Thomas Yale, their eldest son and heirs male, or, in default, to George
Yale, their second son and heirs male, or, in default, to David Yale,
their third son and heirs male, or, in default, to John Yale, their fourth
son and heirs male, or, in default, to Hugh Yale, their fifth son and heirs
male, or, in default, to Richard Yale, their sixth son and heirs male.



DAVID LLOYD AP ELLIS.

He was of Plas-yn-Yale, and married Gwenwhyfar, daughter oi
Richard Lloyd, of Llwynymaen, derived from Hedd Molwynog, Lord of
Uwch Aled, and had issue, five sons and two daughters as follows:

John Yale, also called John Wyn, or Wynn, of whom presently.

Griffith Lloyd, a doctor.

Thomas Yale, LL. D., Prebendary of St. Asaph, 7 July, 1564. Dean
of the Arches, and Chancellor of Bangor. Dr. Yale, who was also
Chancellor of Matthew Parker, Archbishop of Canterbury, died 1577.

Hugh Yale, Alderman of Oswestry,

Roger Lloyd ap Ellis, of Brynglas Lloyd, co Denbigh, called "Mr
Ellis," who was Secretary to Cardinal Wolsey, married Katherine,
daughter of William ap Griffith Vychan, Lord of Kymmer-yn-Edeirnion,
and a baron of Edeirnion, qui vixit June, 15 Henry VIII., 1525, and was



80 THE YALES AND WALES

father of John Wynne ap Roger Lloyd, of Caedwrig, ancestor of the
Lloj'-ds of Plas Ehiion, Bryn Eglwys. &c.

Jane, married 1st, Edward Trevor, Brynkynnalt, co. Denbigh, and
2ndly, John Hammer.

Ellen, married Robert Lloyd, of Halghton.
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Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
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Chelsea Coates,Smith
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Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 March 16 13:53 GMT (UK) »
John Yeale
Francis Steenton
Mar. 21 Nov 1625 Cheswardine

John bp. 7 Oct 1627 Cheswardine  son of John + Francis Yeale
Anne bp. 1 May 1630 Cheswardine  son of John + Frances Yeale
Dorothy bp. 20 Oct 1636 Cheswardine  son of John Yeale

       Maybe his child Dorothy is a connection to Hugh and Dorothy Yale of Oswestry.
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Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 March 16 18:12 BST (UK) »
Some Yale history from the Wrexham.gov website: http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/heritage/famous_people/elihu_yale.htm
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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 March 16 18:37 BST (UK) »
Re. the Owain Glyndwr connection, there is mention of this in the article "Lloyd of Yale (Ial) - 1551" in the Welsh Coast Pioneer 13th Oct 1910 - http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3880520/3880526/90/
D M Jones
Jones, Lewis, Jandrell, George, Price, Lloyd, Cupper (Cuper), Vaughan, Grant, Wheldon

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Re: YALE Lowrie, daughter and heir of Tudor ap Griffith Vychan
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 March 16 21:50 BST (UK) »
Hello D M Jones,

Thanks for both the links.

Alberbury.
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Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock