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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 12:15 BST (UK) »
According to a tree on Ancestry, Sarah Beecham, who married Thomas Morris, was born Sarah Hunt
in 1801 Curbridge, Oxfordshire.
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 12:19 BST (UK) »
Looks as if Sarah may have died by 1851 after having more children - I wonder if Leah left after her death? Although the census does still give Thomas a married

HO107; Piece: 1731; Folio: 500; Page: 13
Witney

Thomas Morris   56   Ag Lab
Elizabeth Morris   10
Fanny Morris   6
Charles Morris   2
James Beecham   20  lodger     ag lab
William Beecham 15 lodger    ag lab
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 12:28 BST (UK) »
Still here in 1851

HO107; Piece: 1731; Folio: 496; Page: 4;
Witney

Thomas Templer   30   Ag lab                    Curbridge, Oxfordshire
Leah Templer   28                                Curbridge, Oxfordshire
John Templer   8                                  Curbridge, Oxfordshire
Susannah Templer   1                          Curbridge, Oxfordshire
John Holliday   62 lodger   Ag lab           Denckath, Berkshire
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 12:31 BST (UK) »
Looks as is they were still here in 1854 as Sarah was born here


Births Jun 1854   
Templer    Sarah       
Witney    3a   586

So that narrows it to between 1854 and 1864.
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 12:32 BST (UK) »
That's possible. So Sarah had a total of 8 children.

James and William Beecham would have been Morris' step children, wouldn't they be listed as such on census??
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 12:44 BST (UK) »
Sarah didn't die - she is back with the family in 1861!

Thomas Morris   63  ag lab
Sarah Morris      60   wife
Fanny Morris    15
Charles Morris     12
William Beacham lodger   25 ag lab

The Beechams seem to be constantly refered to as lodgers rather than step children.

ADDED: Sarah and Thomas are still alive in 1881 as well, by then they are living alone. This looks like Sarah's death.

Deaths Dec 1887   
Morris    Sarah    87   
Witney    3a   495
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 13:00 BST (UK) »

Wonder where she disappeared to.

That answers a lot of questions.  Just need to add to tree so that I can keep it all straight, have been copy and pasting all the info.  Just have to see if I can find some of the Probate records for those that came here.

If I can find out when they arrived here, mystery will be completely solved.
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 13:13 BST (UK) »
Most of our passenger lists don't start until 1890, so you might have more luck from your end, especially now that you can tie it down to between 1854 and 1864. 
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Re: Who is Charlotte Beecham?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 13:22 BST (UK) »
Bit more background that might help. From a tree on Ancestry (well sourced)

Marriage of Sarah Hunt:
14 Oct 1820  Witney, Oxfordshire, England
Joseph Beecham (1799–1839)

From Witney Parish Registers.

Sarah Hunt was baptised 13 Dec 1801 Witney, Oxfordshire. Her parents were John Hunt and Ann.
Sarah Morris died 30 Sep 1887  Witney, Oxfordshire.
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