Caroline Elizabeth Hemmings/Hennens.

[corinthian]

Hi,

I am trying to trace this lady in the 1871 census. She was born in 1827 & her father (according to third marriage cert) was named John & he was a Cooper.

Caroline married firstly, (although I have been unable to trace any details of the marriage), Thomas Elton Martin, a book edge gilder & she is living with him & their daughter, Caroline in Southwark, in the 1851 census.

In the 1861 census I have traced Caroline, now living in West London, with her three surviving daughters. She is recorded as married but I have been unable to trace husband, Thomas, neither can I trace a registration of death for him.

I have the birth certificate of Caroline's youngest daughter, Matilda Elton Martin. She was born 18/10/1855 and her mother's maiden name is recorded as Hennens (Matilda died in 1857).

I have been unable to trace Caroline in the 1871 census but believe between 1861-1870, she married (or at least had a relationship) with a man named Bowler or Boyler. Her daughter Caroline married Thomas William Thompson 08/08/1870 & is named Caroline Elizabeth Martin Bowler (her father is recorded, probably in error, as Thomas Elton Martin Bowler, deceased).  Caroline jnr's sister, is a witness to the marriage & is recorded as Emma Elizabeth Martin Bowler.

Caroline Elizabeth snr married John Waldron (a widower) 14/09/1873 and on that certificate Caroline is recorded as Caroline Elizabeth Bowler, a widow, father, John Hemmings, a Cooper. One witness is son-in-law, Thomas William Thompson.

I have traced her in 1881, living with daughter, Caroline Thompson & granddaughter, Rosina (for whom I have been unable to trace a registration of birth). Both women are recorded as married, but I have been unable to trace either husband.

Caroline Elizabeth Waldron died in 1883.

I am trying to trace Caroline and/or her married daughter Caroline Thompson in the 1871 census,  any other details of her other two surviving daughters or the mysterious Mr Bowler/Boyler. Also any of the death records for the husbands, who seem to disappear into thin air!   

Regards

Coreen

[Milliepede]

Well I've been looking for the last 15 minutes but haven't found anything on the husbands

Onto the daughter and hope for better luck!

[corinthian]

Hi,

Have just found marriage of daughter, Emma Elton Martin Bowler, Q4 1870 in Holborn, to William White Mures & marriage of another daughter, Ann Jemima Boyler Martin 08/06/1873 to John Hooper. Emma Elton Martin Mures died in 1882 but Ann Jemima & her family disappear after her marriage.

Regards

Coreen

[Milliepede]

Everyone disappears don't they, I haven't found anything that helps sorry to say 

I see on the 1881 Caroline Thompson is down as sister not daughter.

I have traced her in 1881, living with daughter, Caroline Thompson & granddaughter, Rosina (for whom I have been unable to trace a registration of birth). Both women are recorded as married, but I have been unable to trace either husband.

[Milliepede]

Her daughter Caroline married Thomas William Thompson 08/08/1870

Have you tried the addresses they gave on the marriage to see if they are there in 1871?

His looks like Whitecross Ct and hers 3 Collins or Colliers Court

[corinthian]

Have tried both addresses with no luck.

[Christine53]

Have you got this 2nd marriage for Caroline (jnr) ?

Caroline Thompson full age wid father Thomas Martin deceased book edge gilder
Richard Collins
both of 2 Goldsmith's Row
6 Dec 1885 St Thomas , Bethnal Green
witnesses Samuel Martin & ? Martin

wondering who these Martins are.

[jennifer c]

It could be Samuel & Rebecca Martin who are in shoreditch in 1881 census he has been marked as Samuel Elton Martin ? age 34 born city Book edge Gilder.

Jennifer

[Milliepede]

Samuel Elton Martin marriage to Rebecca Louisa Job 27 Jan 1865.

His father down as Edward Elton Martin a bookbinder.

Witnesses ?? Elton Martin and Anne Job.