Margaret HOPLA. (b) c1856, (d) 1879.

[Cider]

I am trying to find further information on a Margaret Hopla, aged 23, who was buried on the 8th January 1879, at Llangyfelach. Her abode was given as Plasmarl, which I assume is a house name. The information I seek is who else lived at Plasmarl. Or any other information concerning her family, as she does not appear to be recorded in 1861 or 1871 census return for the area. Can anyone help ?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Plasmarl is actually a district of Swansea, so not sure how much help that information is.

Hopla as a surname in Wales seems, from looking at press reports, to be focused on Pembrokeshire. In 1871 there's a Margaret Hopla (transcribed as Hopler on Ancestry but Hopla on the image) b Pwllcrochan c1853 working as a servant in Pembroke

this is her with her family on 1861 in Pwllchrochan, where all the children were born

Thomas Hopla    39 - ag lab b Rhoscrowther
Charlotte Hopla    30 - b Carew
Margaret Hopla    8
Mary Hopla    4
George Hopla    2
Martha Hopla    2/12

RG9, 4158, 17, 1


Ignore that - she's alive in 1881!

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Do yuo know if your Margaret was single or married? I ask as there's a Charles Hopla and wife Mary in Llangyfelach in 1881 - they appear to have married in 1880.  He's from Pembrokeshire.

There's also a Charles Hopla marrying a Margaret Llewelyn in Pembroke in 1875. Just wondering if this is his wife who dies in 1879 - he then remarried.

[suzard]

On Genuki listed as Places villages and farms in the Parish of Llangyfelach
Clase (within Clase there is a list of names -one of which is Plasmari

I have looked at all 92 census pages of Clase and cannot find an area listed as Plasmari - but sometimes place names are omitted in the census list

1881 in Clase I can only find one family with the surname Hopla
Charles Hopla age 27 occ labourer born Pembrokeshire and wife Mary age 25 b Bettws Carmarthanshire (Bettws falls within Llandilofawr reg dist)

I cannot find Charles in Clase in 1871

I am wondering if Margaret was maybe first wife of Charles Hopla??

there is a marriage reg
Mar qtr 1875
Pembroke
2 of the names on same page are : Charles Hoplah (spelled this way on freeBMD) Margaret Llewellyn
11a 1085


then a death reg
Margaret Hopla
age 23
Mar qtr 1879
Swansea
11a 423

then a marriage record
Jun qtr 1880
Llandilofawr
names on same page
Charles Hopla
Mary Williams
11a 1032

Mary married to Charles on 1881 census was b Bettws Carmarthanshire in Llandilofawr reg district

May be worth investigating further??

Suz

[Mabel Bagshawe]

wiki describes it thus: Plasmarl, or Plas-Marl, is a suburban district and historically a village of the City and County of Swansea, Wales. It falls within the old copper quarter of Landore electoral ward.

[suzard]

there is a marriage reg
Mar qtr 1875
Pembroke
2 of the names on same page are : Charles Hoplah (spelled this way on freeBMD) Margaret Llewellyn
11a 1085




Suz

Apologies marriage reg FreeBMD should be
Jun qtr 1875
Pembroke
Charles Hoplah
Margaret llewellyn
11a 1085

Read (my own writing) as Jan not Jun

Suz