TS Exmouth Record Lookup

[jonw65]

It would be good to know how Mark got back to this particular George Hill, if indeed it is the one he means.
Anyway, he was born in the workhouse.
If his mother was Mary -
Strand Union also used St Giles’s Workhouse. A Mary Hill, aged 28, was sent from there to Edmonton workhouse on 8 January 1887 (creed register)
The Edmonton a + d record has Marry Hill, 28, admitted there on that date, and discharged 8 June 92 to Leavesden. Presumably the asylum.
So Mary Hill should be in the Edmonton workhouse in the 1891 census?

The creed register for the Edmonton school has George Hill admitted 16 January 1889 (confirming Claire's report), informant mother. Just says he was discharged, not when or where.

[jonw65]

1891 possible
piece 1084 folio 182 page 32
Strand Union Workhouse, Edmonton
Hill Mary Inmate Single 32 Cleaner, born Lambeth Walk London
Says she is an imbecile (sorry!) which ties in with the discharge to Leavesden the following year
John

[..claire..]

Very sad start to life wasn't it? But great finds John

[markw78]

Clarie, Rosie99 and Jon65
Thank you all so much for your replies. My Grandfather was a very modest man and the only thing he told his daughter about his childhood was he got a shilling and an orange for Christmas and claimed he was in Barnardo's  I did a search with them but they had no records. I got his discharge papers from National Archives and it listed Edmonton as his place of birth and a little research I joined the dots so to speak and concluded that he was at the orphanage attached to this Workhouse.  His marriage certificate does not list a father just his mother Mary.

It was a very sad start to life but he went on to have a full but modest life with four children [3 sons and 1 daughter] and 5 plus grandchildren. He served in both wars and I have attached a memorial images I created for him located at

https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/485544403551562173/

his ships from his service records

https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/485544403557408900/

Many many thanks for your efforts in adding my research
Regards
Mark

[..claire..]

That's a lovely and fitting tribute for your Grandfather Mark, you must be very proud, I'm just glad we were able to offer a little help

claire

[jonw65]

Found him!
Roman Catholic and Certified Schools: Register of children, 1882-1910
LMA ref WEBG/ST/158 (ST means its Strand)

(The index tells us entries for Training Ship "Exmouth", begin page 103)

page 104
Training Ship "Exmouth"
Hill George
age 12
date of admission 7 June 1899
date of discharge 29 March 1900
where sent to - Bandboy HMS Impregnable

Is on ancestry, if you can see it
London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930
Use "Browse this collection" on right hand side of screen, then select
Borough - Westminster
Parish/Union - Westminster
Record Type - Register of Children
scroll down to the film - Roman Catholic Schools:Register of children, 1882-1910
is image 76
(other Exmouth records on there are not for Strand)

There may be more at the LMA of course
John

[..claire..]

Great find John 

[Bookbox]

There may be more at the LMA of course

Almost certainly. TS Exmouth's own records are a fantastic resource, particularly the Boys' Record Books. They are held at LMA under the Metropolitan Asylums Board (MAB), separately from any poor law union records. They're not yet online, but I believe some are being digitised by the University of Sussex for an academic project.

[markw78]

Wow.. so many details. Thank you for all the information. Would love to see the entry in the Boys' Record Books for my grandfather. Will follow up on the references in the replies concerning George and his mother Mary.
Many thanks and glad you like the memorial image's Claire
Regards
Mark W