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Re: Newspaper picture of Walter R Leigh - help please
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 17 July 16 20:41 BST (UK) »
Have finally found out the movements of the 2/24th  :)

Jan 1873 to Dec 1873 Warley, Essex
Dec 1873 to June 1875 Aldershot
June 1875 to June 1877 Dover, Kent
June 1877 to Jan 1878 Chatham, Kent
March 1878 to March 1879 South Africa

Given the above and the fact that their base was at Brecon, he could presumably have been there at various times to meet Mary Ann, get her pregnant (summer 1876), marry her (Oct 1876), and register the birth of the first child (born 22 March 1877, registered 9 April 1877).

Sometime during the following year he then went missing but was caught, and got Mary Ann pregnant with the 2nd child (around March 1878) before being sent to South Africa (March 1878).

The birth of the 2nd child around 65 miles away from Brecon in Cardiganshire on 28 December 1878 was registered by Mary Ann on 8 Feb 1879, as John Richard Packman, father Walter Robert Packman, coachman. However, it appears likely that the birth date was false as well as the name... his baptism record says DOB 12 Dec 1879, the 1939 register says 12 Dec 1880, so I'm inclined to think that his actual DOB was 12 Dec 1878 but changed to avoid a fine for late registration (8 Feb 1879 being 6 weeks to the day after 28 Dec 1878).

This all ties in with Walter being in the UK until March 1878 when the 2/24th went to South Africa, so he could well have been at Isandlwana (with Chelmsford), returning home afterwards and being discharged (as an invalid) in June 1880.

Presumably he used the name Packman in the 1881 and 1891 censuses to keep his pension, despite registering all the later children as Leigh, and having them all - including John Richard Packman - baptised as Leigh. Strangely, Walter was baptised himself in 1884 (aged 39), though he had already been baptised - twice - as a child.

We still have the puzzle as to where he was from 1861 (Kent) until 1876 (Brecon) and how the two join up. Are there any records not online that might help us further? 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Newspaper picture of Walter R Leigh - help please
« Reply #19 on: Monday 18 July 16 17:40 BST (UK) »
 You could try Cityark. They have various church records where you can find births, baptisms marriages and burials.

I found a lot of my family on that site.

Kessanah
Hide/Hyde Kent,Sussex,West Ham
Beale/Burgess Sussex
Reed West Ham,East Ham London
Banks Seaford,Rottingdean Sussex
Koller Poplar London,Como Italy.
Checkley Northamptonshire.
Bentley Northamptonshire.West Ham,Poplar
Ridley Gatehead Durham Northumberland.
Poplar.Galt, Ontario, Canada
Corbyn Poplar,West Ham.Suffolk
Merritt Norwich.West ham
Watson Norwich,West Ham


Corbyn Fressingield Suffolk
Ridley.Galt Ontario

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Re: Newspaper picture of Walter R Leigh - help please
« Reply #20 on: Monday 18 July 16 19:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Kesannah, what is cityark, not heard of it before.

It's only where Walter was in 1871 that i'm missing now really, plus joining up kent to brecon and anything more to suggest he was in the army.

I have his birth, marriage and death certificates, records of his 3 baptisms 🙄, plus burial 😀
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....