Non-conformist baptisms

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I am trying to find baptisms for Beddgelert 1838-1845, and Llanrug 1845-1858,  think they were non-conformist. Other than visiting Caernarvon, can anyone help please?

[Pennines]

Have you tried the non-conformist baptisms on Family Search or on Ancestry? Family Search is free of course, but you will need to subscribe to Ancestry.

What names are you researching?

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Pennines,

Surname WILLIAMS !!!!!! as bad as Jones.
Parents Robert and Catherine Williams nee Griffith. (Master shoemaker)
I have found baptisms for the first three children, at St.Mary's, Beddgelert 1834/36/37; five more children born Beddgelert, but can't find baptisms on either Familysearch nor Ancestry.
Looking for - Griffith Williams b. 1838.
                    William Williams b. 1839.
                    Ellis Williams      b. 1841.
                    Mary Williams     b.  1843.
                    Robert Williams   b. 1844.

 Caeathraw,  Llanrug:-
                    Thomas Williams b. 1845
                    Elizabeth Williams b. 1847  (my gt. grandma)
                    Ann Williams         b. 1848
                    Catherine Williams  b. 1850.
                    Janet Williams         b. 1852.
                    Charlotte Williams   b. 1857.

Hopefully
G.

[Pennines]

There are one or two on the Wales Select Births and Baptisms on Ancestry where the dates coincide and the parents names coincide BUT - these are transcribed records and give no detail other than dates and names. Hence not very useful and they are not in the correct locations - viz

Griffith Williams 15/7/1838 - Llandegai, Caernarvon parents Robert and Catherine.
Elizabeth Williams 25/4/1847 -- Llanbedrog, Caernarvon parents Robert and Catherine.

Certainly I am unable to find any actual parish registers containing the names of all these children. Is there any chance they may be Baptists? Childen of Baptist parents were not baptised as infants, although they may be registered with the chapel.
Baptism occurred when they were old enough to renounce their sins and demonstrate an understanding and a commitment to the Baptist beliefs. This varied from congregation to congregation. They could be as young as 15 or older than 21.

The only thing I can suggest is to enquire with the Gwynned Family History Society;
www.gwyneddfhs.org/
to see if they have any records for the particular locations.

I am really sorry I have been unable to help -- but maybe someone else more familiar with that area can do so.

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Pennines,

Thanks for your help and interest; no the family weren't Baptist - Calvanistic Methodist!

[KirstyG]

I don't know if it will help to know which chapel they may have attended? If so there are some useful bits of information on Genuki eg.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llanrug

I know the some of the Calvanistic Methodist records for Anglesey survived and are online http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/AGY/MethBaps they do contain occasional strays where the parish of birth was under Carnarvonshire.

Hope this helps
Kirsty

[Huwcyn]

A Charlotte Williams, from Caeathro and of the right age, was buried at Llanbeblig church in August 1866. If they lived in Caeathro, the nearest CM chapel would be Capel Caeathro.  I can't find any reference to the family in the MIs for that chapel, though. My gg grandmother was born in that area around 1830, and I've drawn a blank for her baptism as well. I wonder if its the case that the chapel records have been lost, or have not been archived digitally.
   

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Huwcyn,

That's one of mine , Charlotte Williams, daughter of Robert and Catherine Williams nee Griffith; 1861 census was living Caethro, Llanrug., born 1857.

At least now I have some further  info on this family of mine; thanks Hywcyn.

Is there a precise date for her burial, also could there be a gravestone?

Glenys

[Huwcyn]

Burial 17/09/1866 at Llanbeblig

http://www.carnarvontraders.com/burxpe2530.shtml

There are MIs for Llanbeblig church, but there are around 8 volumes. The graveyard has been notorious in the past for becoming unkempt and overgrown. I'm not sure how it is now. Have you searched for baptisms at Llanbeblig ?

If you know they were Presbyterians, do you know which chapel(s) they attended ? .