Margaret Mullins(Mullen)

[sparrett]

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[sparrett]

When John MULLEN died in 1898, his daughter Margaret MULLEN applied for letters of administration through Queensland Trustees.

She is described as his lawful daughter and a spinster.

John was a quarryman of Kangaroo Point.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3670757

Sue

ADDING
The death certificate of John MULLEN can be downloaded directly after online payment.
Australian certificates are very in formative and if the the required information is known to the informant, many questions may be answered.

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=births

This is the information you may see

DEATH
 
Name
Date
Death place
Age
Occupation
Cause of death
Parents' names
Spouse names
Marriage details
children's names
No of children
Birthplace

Alternatively, you could get the death certificate of his wife Margaret.
Hopefully one or the other of them will list your great grandmother's name as a child of the marriage.

[Dundee]

Do you have witnesses names on the marriage certificate for your great grandmother please?

Is it possible that Aunt Margaret MULLEN in Queensland is a sister-in-law of your great grandmother, rather than a sister?

Can you scan the postcard and post to this site - someone might be able to spot something useful on it?

Are the MULLENS family Catholic Irish?

Who did your MULLENS great grandmother marry.?

There is another thread with more information about Ellen.  They were Catholic and she married Timothy BYRNE in 1872.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=641070.0

Denis, do you have Ellen's marriage certificate from the Registry?  The parish register provides just basic information, usually just two lines, but after 1864 this is what an official marriage cert looks like:

http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/image-files/santry-santrymarriagelge.jpg

The cert volume/page details for Timothy and Ellen:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYSW-MPD
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYSM-NM5

Debra 

[Dundee]

I think I have found the marriage of John and Margaret as well as the baptism for Charles at Desertcreight/Cookstown in Co. Tyrone.

Marriage 27 Nov 1854
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632533#page/117/mode/1up

Baptism 23 Sep 1855
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632533#page/117/mode/1up

This makes him 18 when they emigrated, not 15, so I am not sure if it is them.  Some fibbed about the children's ages to get a cheaper fare.  He said he was 26 in April 1883.

For Ellen to belong to this family she would have to be born before the marriage.  I haven't been able to find indexed baptisms for any of the other children in Ireland.

Debra 

[sparrett]

Hi Debra
What good finds.
Noland01 has been online since your posting and I do hope he/she has not missed seeing the information.
After what has apparently  been a long search, it will be good to have something fresh to consider, no doubt. Perhaps we will hear soon.

Sue

[noland01]

Hi Debra
What good finds.
Noland01 has been online since your posting and I do hope he/she has not missed seeing the information.
After what has apparently  been a long search, it will be good to have something fresh to consider, no doubt. Perhaps we will hear soon.

Sue

Hi everyone,
Just coming back to this now.
Firstly to say thank you for all the interest and replies.

Reading through the thread I think some people maybe misunderstood my query.Was looking just for something re. Margaret Mullen(Mullins) who lived and I assume died in Brisbane,Australia.
Her father is listed as Patrick Mullen on her sisters(my g. gran's) marriage cert and was dead at this stage (1872).As my g. gran was married in Ireland and lived her entire life here then would assume her father died in Ireland as well.
My g. gran married in Carlow,Ireland and gave two different addresses on her civil and parish marriage entries,both in Carlow about 2 miles apart.Pretty sure one was not where she was from as the same family have lived there since before 1850.(all these places are only a few miles from where I live)

The only connection to Australia was Margaret Mullen,whom I  presume emigrated there sometime between 1860 and 1890 as her sister was born c.1850  going by that birth age.

Was really hoping if I could find travel,work or death details that might mention where in Ireland she came from or other siblings or maybe even a marriage record.Have no real idea of Australian records but know that some of those leaving Ireland for the states would have a record of who they were going to live with when they landed in the US.Unsure if those entering Australia in the time frame I am looking at needed a sponsor etc.

Family lore(and has proved pretty accurate so far )has it that Margaret never married and never returned to Ireland.My gran(her niece) went to the US to work c. 1909 for about ten years and would imagine if she had an aunt alive in Australia at this time maybe she would have went there instead or was there much immigration at that time?Know my gran had no family in the US at the time she went .

Maybe all the above is presuming a lot and adding two and two to get five but a long shot is maybe as good as any at this stage.

[sparrett]

I do no think there has been any misunderstanding at all.

There was  an omission on your part however as you did not mention the name of your G grandmother's father until your last post.

Perhaps this was included in one of your previous posts.

We have furnished you with the only  information findable on the only unmarried Margaret MULLEN in Brisbane in the timeframe suggested.

Purchasing the death certificate of John MULLEN as suggested will eliminate or confirm this woman once and for all.

This will do more for your research than relying on assumptions and family stories.

Sue