1841 census.

[josey]

Wow, you are 'working' into the wee small hours Annie, sounds intriguing ....

[Rosinish]

Yes Josey....

Kind of like reading a book which you can't put down 

Just wish I had more time today to look for the vital evidence I need 

I have a feeling John/William John may have been a Bigamist or leading a double life as there are certain points worth considering.

(1) A rather large gap in ages of children on the 1851 (7 yrs I think) 6 yrs?
(2) Married Sarah by name of John
(3) 3 of their children baptised with father William John (found by Millie)
(4) John (missing in 1841) looks to be with another family although employed as a Lab?

Annie

ADDED......

I viewed the marriage:

John West
Sarah Maria Haydon
12 Sep 1824 - St George, Bloomsbury

Witnesses Henry James (can't make out surname) & Ann Haydon

[Ruskie]

Not that it matters, but might that witness's name be Henry James Brookes?

Re William John. In all his dealings John and his family have all called him 'John'. If you look you will find that the baptism was carried out by one of the household members. She also reported the death of his son in 1836 where she also calls him William John. My investigations have not found any one related with this name, so I have had to discounted this as wrong bearing in mind that few people could read or write then.

As an aside, when looking at the marriage I noticed that both John and Sarah signed their names.

Neither of the above are relevant to the search that Annie is working so hard on, but I just wanted to add them nevertheless. 

[josey]

Another aside - I think witness may be Henry James Brookes. And John & Sarah were the only couple out of 6 on the page who DIDN'T have John Harrison [presumably parish clerk or suchlike] as a witness.

[Ruskie]

Snap Josey. 

[Rosinish]

Another marriage which has me curious:

John West
Sarah French

19 Nov 1827, St Marylebone, Westminster

Could this be "John"

1841

Registration district St Marylebone
Sub-registration district Christchurch
Piece 677
Book 6
Folio 16
Page Number 25

Household Members:   

John West 38
Sarah West 37
Sarah West 10
Elizabeth West 8
George West 5

1841
Household Members:   
John West 38 b 1803
Sarah West 37 b 1804
Sarah West 10 b 1831
Elizabeth West 8 b 1833
George West 5 b 1836

1851
Household Members:
John West Head 50 b 1801
Sarah West Wife 44 b 1807
Louis West 24 b 1827
Sarah West 20 b 1831
GAP of  6 yrs then:
Rosina West 13 b 1838
Ernest West 10 b 1841

In the above 1851 there is a gap between Sarah b 1831 & Rosina b 1838

In above 1841 there is a “filled gap” between that Sarah (1831) & Rosie (1838)

Both Sarah’s born same yr 1831 but then Elizabeth b 1833 & George b 1836 fill the missing gap of 6 years

Have not had time to look for Sarah no. 2 in 1851 when our John was with Sarah no. 1

So if anyone has time (while I'm tied up).....might be better looking for wee George (name not so common) to see if he's with parents but need to find that Sarah (his mum) definitely in 1851 to find out if hubby's around 

Annie

[josey]

HO107; Piece: 1490; Folio: 28; Page: 48; Aha no John...but 4 more children aged 10 - 2...
2 Burns Place
Sarah West   widow 42 charwoman
Sarah West   21 charwoman
Fanny West   10
Sarah West   4
William West   7
George West   13
Eliza West   2

Perhaps find the baptism of one of these children?

all born Marylebone

[Rosinish]

Josey.......

Well done & thanks!!!, looking a wee bit more suspicious now 

That was mighty quick....only went to make a cup of tea 

Ohhhh.......

Things are sure looking good on my suspicions but for the better 

Ruskie......You know what I mean on that comment 

Thanks for pointing out that both signed as I had forgotten about the post regarding "I have had to discounted this as wrong bearing in mind that few people could read or write then" 

Annie

[josey]

Must get to pilates @2 so will try later