Morgan Mystery of train crash

[patchpear]

There were always family stories told of us not really being 'Morgans' due to a train crash and being adopted by the morgan family. I have spotted recently the 'round oak' train crash in 1858 and as the family seemed to be from Daisy Bank / Tipton area, this train crash is of interest.  However I need to find the actual birth record for JOSEPH MORGAN born Tipton, although on census with 2nd wife Leander Sophia Morgan (nee Spittle) he does seem to alter his age and name abit. Was he born a Morgan and to what parentage, or was he indeed the 'adopted child' that the stories speak of? Some census offer a birthyear of 1862, others 1873 so there is great confusion already. Alongside this he appears to have married twice with up to 18 children when combined with Leander's, who was also previously married it seems to a David Morgan.  Id appreciate some help with this please as it seems so complicated?

[patchpear]

Children of Joseph and Leander on 1911 census include:
Samuel, Thomas, William, Daisy, Elizabeth, David, Lily, Edith, Joseph, Robert, John, George

[Willow 4873]

If he was born c1862 he couldn't have been orphaned in a crash in 1858

There is a Joseph Morgan born c1863 on the 1871 census in Tipton with parents Thomas and Ellen. Thomas is a labourer

Willow x

[jacquelineve]

Can't find a marriage for him to a Leander...

David Morgan + Leander Spittle June qtr 1894 Wolverhampton

Jackie

[patchpear]

Thankyou for that, its helpful.  The dates are so varied it is frustrating. The only certain information I have is that Joseph who married Leander and fathered all those children is the correct one but how I trace backwards to find his accurate birth record is what is confusing me. I appreciate his birth date is later than the crash so wonder if it refers to the family in some other way? Also why on one census does his dob work out as 1873?

[patchpear]

Thankyou Jackie. That confirms Leanders first marriage to David, whom she had six children with.
She then 'married' or lived with my great grandfather Joseph Morgan (who was previously married) and had many more children including my Grandad.  I think having so many marriages is also complicating it 

[Manchester Rambler]

There is a marriage in Sep Q 1914 between Leander S MORGAN and Josiah MORGAN  (Dudley 6b 1854) - according to West Midlands BMD it took place in Dudley register office.

Although the name is Josiah, rather than Joseph, I would guess that it's the same couple, and the certificate would (hopefully!) give Joseph/Josiah's father's name.

Rambler

[Willow 4873]

If you look on the 1911 census it says they have been married 2 years BUT on FreeBMD there is a marriage 1914 Dudley of a Josiah Morgan and Leander S Morgan

I think Joseph is actually called Josiah but goes by the name of Joseph it might be to invest in the marriage certificate

also there is a baptism 27.12.1874 at St Thomas Dudley of a Josiah born 25.6.1874 to parents David and Jane who would fit who you are looking for and there is a tree on Ancestry that has him down as Josiah not Joseph

Beat me to it Rambler 

Willow x

[patchpear]

Interesting! I will try and purchase marriage cert.
Thank-you for your help