Essex: Joseph MOSS, Born c1840 probably Romford

[BAC3]

Hello,

According to his August 1861 Springfield Gaol records Joseph MOSS named his father, James MOSS, as his next-of-kin, living at Collier Row, White Hart Lane, ROMFORD, Essex, but no indication of his age.   Joseph MOSS at this stage had been sentenced on 03/07/1861 to Penal Servitude for 6 years and consequently spent time at Millbank, Dartmoor and finally Millbank from where he was released on licence 19/07/1866 stating his destination was "P/A, London"

Can anyone help tracing either of these two gentlemen through the Census or similar indexes please?   Sadly, I have failed!!

For the moment and thank you,

BAC3

[suzard]

think this is them - but Joseph is Josiah
1861
Collier Row Romford Essex
James Moss Head M 55 ag lab Gt Maplestead
Harriet wife 55 Belchamp Walter
Josiah son U 22 ag lab Little Maplestead
Frederic son U 18 ag lab Little Maplestead
Matilda daughter 16 Little Maplestead
RG9 1068 129 18

Suz

[suzard]

it seems he is Joseph in 1851 and Josiah in 1841

1851
Halstead (sorry can't read road name) Essex
James Moss Head M 43 Gamekeeper Gt Halstead
Harriet wife 43 Walter belchamp
William son U 23 lab
Robert son U 21 lab
Sarah daughter U 19
James son U 17 lab
Emma daughter 15
JOSEPH son 13 lab
Federic son 11 lab
Matilda daughter 6
children all b Little Maplestead
HO107 1784 361 23

1841
Dan St? Little Maplestead Essex
James 35 gamekeeper
Harriet 30
William 12 ag lab
Robert 10
Sarah 8
James 6
Emma 4
JOSIAH 2
all b Essex
HO107 333 2 9 12

Suz

[suffolk*sue]

Josiah Moss was baptized in Lt. Maplestead on September 30th, 1838, father a gamekeeper.

[suzard]

1871 (ages out)
13 Prospect Place Romford
James Moss head M 71 Brewer's lab Gt Maplestead
Harriet wife 70 Walter belcham
Alice Moss granddaughter 10 Romford
RG10 1645 48 4

1881
Prospect Place Collier Row Romford
Harriet Moss Head widow 74 Walte Belcham
William son married 28 lab Halstead?
Ann daughter in law 22 Hornchurch
William A grandson 3 Romford
Arthur G grandson 2 Romford
RG11 1744 94 31

Suz

[BAC3]

Thank you Suz and Suffolk*Sue

It looks as though some of the "mystery" has been solved, at least up to the 1861 Census for Joseph, alias Josiah, and the father James to 1871 and his death in the next 10 years.   My knowledge of Essex is so poor, Romford, Halstead, Great Bardfield, Little Maplestead and so on, I become confused, although that is gradually becoming a state of mind with many and increasing "senior moments"!!

But Joseph, Joseph wherefore art thou Joseph   That is the question.   Apologies to the Bard.

For now,

Tony

[essexpoet]

If it is of any interest James Moss married Harriet Theobald 04/12/1827 at Gestingthorpe.